231st running of Derby at Epsom

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The Queen always looks like she is sucking a persimmons. Nothing new there

I really enjoyed the second race posted with the St Nick horse. I never would have believed a horse could get so out of sorts than come back like she did.[/QUOTE]

He… St Nicholas Abbey is a colt.
Looks like he might finally fulfill the promise he showed as a 2yo after dissapointing somewhat last year as a 3yo.

Article on Fallon before he was prevented from riding.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/fallon-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-2666449.html

He really is a sleazeball. He and Dutrow would make brothers seem too distantly related.

Just read an article that says Pour Moi’s young jock just got set down a day for excessive use of the whip. Until races are forfeited for that infraction, there is no bite to the rule.

Article also says that for his showboating, the jock would have been set down for 2 months in Australia.

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Just read an article that says Pour Moi’s young jock just got set down a day for excessive use of the whip. Until races are forfeited for that infraction, there is no bite to the rule. [/QUOTE]

What race did you watch?
His overuse of the whip was minimal at best. He hit the horse a total of 9 times in the final 2f. What he more than likely recieved the ban for was the point about 100 yards out where he hits the horse and then again two strides later. English rules state that you must give the horse a minimum of three strides to respond.
You want to see excessive use of the whip, here watch America’s hero Calvin Borel whipping the arse and shoulder off of Rachel Alexandra in the Woodward. That’s like 20 times in the final furlong, for which he didn’t even recieve a warning, let alone a ban.

Article also says that for his showboating, the jock would have been set down for 2 months in Australia.

Kid should receive a medal. He’s one of the best things to happen to racing in long time. What he did broke no rules. Yes, it was cheeky, cocky and took balls of brass and supreme self confidence.

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Kid should receive a medal. He’s one of the best things to happen to racing in long time. What he did broke no rules. Yes, it was cheeky, cocky and took balls of brass and supreme self confidence.[/QUOTE]

It was also so spontaneous that I don’t he could have suppressed it if he’d tried. And thank goodness he didn’t!! It was a thrilling race and a great way to end it.

Another big race on the line and a lost shoe costing victory …

UK: The Independent “Lost shoe costs Queen her first Derby victory”

The Queen was denied her first victory in the race when her horse Carlton House, the pre-race favourite, finished third. It was later discovered the horse lost a shoe in the final furlong. Experts estimated yesterday that the shoe had saved bookmakers an estimated £20m payout.

The Queen was joined at Epsom by the Duke of Edinburgh, Prince William and his wife, the Duchess of Cambridge, plus Prince Harry, as they hoped to see history being made. Coming as it did after her historic visit to Ireland, the marriage of her grandson and a state visit by President Obama, there was a feeling her good fortunes would transfer to the race track.

Race replay: Investec Derby 2011 at Epsom

If want Carlton House’s lost shoe - you can bid for it as its going up for charity.

Racing Welfare spokesman Richard Negus said: "As you might expect we are doing cartwheels here, and once we have received it we will ask Sir Michael [Stoute] and Ryan Moore to sign it’s mounting plaque.

"We shall also ask the palace if the Queen would consider authenticating it too. John Warren has confirmed that the shoe is the ‘real deal’ and it will add an extra interest to the auction which we hope will raise significant funds for Racing Welfare.

“So we will have a situation where the Queen’s daughter will be present at the auction of the shoe that lost her mother the Derby when that fateful piece of metal returns to Epsom on July 14.”