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[OverandOnward]

@ShenanAnna

The way I read it, if you want a PPE you can only get it if you’re under contract to buy, and that if the PPE is clean, you’re obligated to buy.

Not that any sale is contingent on a “clean PPE” as PPE only happens if an under-contract buyer does one.

Yes I think this is a good point – he is not using language to properly convey his intention. Knucklehead’s lack of knowledge of the horse world, as well as horses, is showing up again.

It’s common to commit to buy a horse contingent on a PPE – that is, Buyer wants the horse and will definitely buy it nothing too concerning is on the PPE – but Knucklehead is using a description that is the buyer’s language, not the seller’s.

So if we re-interpret and re-arrange the words – Guessing the probable intention is: If Buyer wants a PPE, first agree on price and fully commit to buying at that price “contingent on results of PPE”. Then do the PPE.

I wonder if he thinks that he, the Seller, will decide if the PPE is “clean” (a term I don’t usually hear re PPE’s). As we all know, a PPE is information, not a pass/fail exam.

It’s tricky to give the Seller a say as to if a PPE has enough concerning info to back out of the purchase. The language he’s using (or his sales team is using) is hard to interpret as to which party makes the decision.

I have an idea that he probably thinks that he will keep the Buyer’s money and will come up with reasons why the Buyer gets the horses in as-is condition, PPE or not.

[2DogsFarm]

I have to think one of his Quest Groupies gave him the PPE idea.
Doubtful his extensive experience with horses, as a Child Jumper , had any use for the practice
His “team” must be his brother - supplier of truck & trailer

AS IF he can force a sale based on “clean” results - whatever that obfuscating (word?) Boolsheet is about.

[hoopoe]

I said, originally when the idea of selling arose, that it would likely be someone who just threw money at him to get the horses away from him.

I am willing to bet a box of donuts that The local Breeze Big Hole Valley poster ( the horse is lame and will likely stay here, JUne 30th) will likely find themselves with a dumped horse and the whole legal $hit that goes with that. I would not be at all surprised to find out he rode away into the sunset

[Syrynx]

As I read the exchange, I thought the reason they insist there is a contract before a PPE was that anyone might run a PPE on those two poor horses without actually intending to pay that ridiculous price and then publicly share the results.

So I also expect in that contract there is some sort of non disclosure clause.

It’s all so very odd but man if I won the lottery I’d swoop in and buy them w/out a PPE just to give them a soft landing.

[MunchingonHay]

I agree with Syrynx, I think they don’t want people just having a PPE and then broadcasting the results. I do feel that he is approaching the sale of these horses more like a house. Using the term “under contract” “sale will be contigent” ect. But like the above poster stated, I think he is just regurgitating vocabulary he has seen other people use regarding selling horses.

The TT poster that did posted the text messge exchange between a potential buyer and a team member of 2raw2ride forgot to blur out the name in the second bubble. I wonder who Serena is? Cereal’s flavor of the week? His manager-brother’s GF/wife? Sister???

Over the weekend Cereal posted video and stills of him with kind older folks that he is taking advantage of. (rubs me the wrong way when he always refers to men as Ol’).

Nothing else new (that I saw) on The Mare Stare or the other TT’ers that are following him over the weekend.

[Night_Flight]

@MunchingonHay

The TT poster that did posted the text messge exchange between a potential buyer and a team member of 2raw2ride forgot to blur out the name in the second bubble. I wonder who Serena is? Cereal’s flavor of the week? His manager-brother’s GF/wife? Sister???

I figured it was a fake name to make it seem like there’s a bigger team involved than there actually is.

[OverandOnward]

the_mare_stare is on it again … updates from the last 2 days:

.> he’s still in Montana; > he’s riding again, apparently helping Pete (and Falcon) recover by trying to go 100 miles in 3 days and make up lost time BUT at least we have some video this time; > another missed opportunity when LE spoke with him but ‘didn’t know what they were looking for’ and let him travel on.

marestare is again insisting that there are LE forces ‘looking for him’. I don’t know that this means in an investigatory sense – they could just put out the word through their local news, but again he is not a criminal danger to other people so I doubt he meets the standard for that.

Trigger warning: These linked videos are extremely maddening and will hit every button in the psyche of anyone who cares about these two horses.

In the first link, go to 50 seconds for the best look at how the are each moving.

https://www.tiktok.com/@the_mare_stare/video/7251602364979891502?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

https://www.tiktok.com/@the_mare_stare/video/7252025376162172206?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

[moonlitoaksranch]

Is that horse tied by the reins?

[Night_Flight]

I can’t stand these tiktok videos. The second one won’t even show anything but a black screen for me.

[OverandOnward]

@moonlitoaksranch

Is that horse tied by the reins?

That’s how all the movie cowboys did it in all of the old westerns. So that must be the way.

[Kyrabee]

Poor Pete…he is basically dragging him .

Susan

[MunchingonHay]

I don’t understand what people think LEO can do. She is making this worse for the horses if you ask me. Every time LEO is sent out, he goes into hiding and we loose sight of him.

While I do NOT agree with how he is handling his journey, care for his horses, etc; continuing to send the law out to him only makes him mad since LEO has no clue what to look for and he gets away scott free which only empowers him.

I wish like OverandOnward stated, get the local news involved. Expose him for what he is and not allowing him and his “team” to arrange for the news crews to be at the other end like he had at the beginning. Everyone that has interfered has only fueled his fire.

At one point there was going to be people that rode along with him ‘falcon express’ to record his ride to make his footage unusable, why has that approached stopped?

@Night_Flight if you go to TT and search 2raw2ride or The_mare_stare and they should pop up.

Also, for those that do not like the sliding photos in TT. You can pause them and slide them over when you want. This feature is both on the desktop version and Iphone. I do not have an android so I can’t speak to that.

[Night_Flight]

Do you have a tiktok account? A lot of features seem to be limited to account holders and I’m prompted to download the app pretty much any time I touch anything (which I refuse to do for various reasons).

[MunchingonHay]

I do not use my account when I go to tiktok.com on my desktop. Which is what I use during the work day.

It will prompt you to create an account or log in, but you can X out. Then access the search bar.

I think you have to have an account for the phone. but I could be wrong.

[OverandOnward]

@Night_Flight

Do you have a tiktok account? A lot of features seem to be limited to account holders and I’m prompted to download the app pretty much any time I touch anything (which I refuse to do for various reasons).

I don’t know if this will help because I am not a TT expert, at all.

I don’t have a TT account, but I can view mare_stare’s videos. Don’t know why.

Here is her video page …

https://www.tiktok.com/@the_mare_stare?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

I can click on individual videos and view them.

I’m also able to view these videos from links in this thread posted by others.

So if you don’t have that visibility, perhaps I have a technology feature that is allowing me to do that. If so I don’t know what it is.

I find that looking at her whole page offers at least a little bit of context on mare_stare as a person. Clearly a social media person, clearly a bit attention-seeking herself, but that’s not a problem or a real factor in this saga. Also she is located in TX and working online sources to track him. Traveling to shadow 2raw, or try to encounter him somewhere, does not seem to be in her plan, whatever the reason.

There are others who are posting some information but I’m not digging that deeply into all of this. I would follow something easy to find, but I’m not searching twitter for comments, etc. & so on. But, there are other avenues for info for those who prefer them.

[Djones]

I think the gaited horse’s stifles are completely trashed from having to drag poor Pete every step. Hence the right stifle is worse.

[ShenanAnna]

I don’t have a TikTok account, either, and can generally view what people post links to. I’m using a very cheap (from Walmart) android phone and have not adjusted it much, certainly not to enable social media, which I barely use (only FB for groups).

The one link that was posted in the from OverandOnward just above and the link in approximately post number 710 seem to be for mare stare’s account, not to a particular entry. I can click either of those links and choose which of her updates/posts to look at.

[Night_Flight]

Thanks, all! The link to the account works much better for me than the individual video links have

[SLW]

@Kyrabee

Poor Pete…he is basically dragging him .

Susan

Since Day 1 that poor stock horse has been forced to maintain a gaited horse’s pace.

[Djones]

It’s terrible and cruel to both