You can also accomplish a lot with “don’t ask, don’t tell.”
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I believe a lot of states still have that law in the books. The great thing about laws is that sometimes they forget to be abolished.
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Since the railroads came, we’ve been trying to get people to use that court system thing they brought in from the east.
Sometimes there just isn’t a court handy, though.
All kidding aside, it is a thing in rescue, the wish to just swoop in and remove animals from a deteriorating situation, legalities be damned. It rarely ends well. But it is undeniably hard to keep working these situations over weeks & months with uncertain progress.
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Another TT update for “Mare Stare” from someone who was apparently at the vet clinic while Cereals horses were there. Sorry for a TT video! Hopefully someone can grab screen shots.
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Yeah, caught that upstream on post #1386. Quoted below so it isn’t necessary to scroll up to find it.
So far she hasn’t posted anything new today. Maybe later today we’ll get more info.
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Captain C*$t???
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Insulting to even real C- words to be lumped with him 
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I think we are ALL ready for this to be over.
The cereal references/puns are great. you guys are so creative.
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For an example of how Pussmuffin could & should have prepped, see the Mongol Derby thread.
Tech Bro mentioned is doing it Right!
& Is riding a much tougher Quest 
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I find that back and forth from Tik Tok a bit confusing.
The way it reads, Dipshit was at the vet and “asked for a PPE for Pete” because someone was (allegedly) interested in him. Yet no PPE was done. Then the vet pointed out Pete’s bad hock and suggested it needed an exam, but nothing was done. The only result was a pair of health certificates and apparently some bute.
How could this modest interaction possibly serve as getting a vet clearance before the horses are ridden again? I thought that’s what LE required. A CVI certifies a horse is free of communicable diseases. It means nothing regarding lameness or suitability for riding. I realize we all know this, but perhaps Dipshit does not. Could he possibly think that this was a PPE?
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I would not put it past him to think that a CVI is a PPE. 
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it is hard to follow what and who is talking on that text exchange. However the backtracking and removal of words and names makes it sound like it is someone inside the vet clinic talking
and violating clinical ethics
which us something to discuss for another day
no excuse in any circumstance, even one as sad as this
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You are right Hoopoe,
It was a text back and forth with The Mare Stare and a vet tech at the clinic. I found it difficult because TMS prompts the vet tech and I feel she gets a little side tracked. TMS has jumped to conclusions in the past regarding Cereal. In the text I saw the other day, it was not blacked out like that.
Again I feel that PPE is the lastest equestrian buzz word they learned and is running it into the ground. Anyone with eyes in their head would see these horses are not sound. So why stress so much about rads, bloodwork, and flexion tests. She’s a pot stirrer. (TMS)
And if someone does pony up the cash, who cares of they get a PPE. Its their money to do what ever they want with it.
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Well, DUH! 
They both have 3 letters, right? 
Hasn’t Honey Bunches of Crap’s 100-day goal come & gone?
Where’s the Grand Finale?
I’d hate to have to download TikTok to become a Follower & get his very own Word 
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So. I suspect that the truth is that neither horse has had a true vet exam since day one. Ever. This is what Bozo will not do. If he thinks that he won’t like the answer, then he doesn’t ask the question.
Did he himself get PPE’s before buying? Doubtful. If he did, those would be a great benchmark against a later examination.
He keeps being told by vets to have the horses examined more closely. But he doesn’t do it. Possibly Falcon had a little bit of a closer look in San Angelo, but we can’t be sure how thorough that was.
Apparently he was told by the San Angelo vet that Falcon was not fit for a trip like this. We don’t know based on what evidence. Maybe just a visual look over.
As far as being “cleared to ride”, that is probably only effective for Kootenai county in Idaho. They have no authority anywhere else.
So no, I doubt he did whatever needed to be done to get “clearance to ride“ for the only jurisdiction where he was required to do it. He’s either trailering through there, or going around.
TMS had a little talk about how he should be transparent and release all of the vet records to encourage buyers. But I think that there are no vet records to release. Just a basic proof that the horses don’t have a contagious disease, for the state inspections.
Just my thoughts.
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I agree with all that. And every official along the way hot potato’d him down the line. Traveling headache for all involved. Really bummed that there were no safety nets for the horses other than a bunch of “crazy” horse ladies that made his trip more difficult.
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That’s certainly not cool. The vet tech who was spilling the details on social media could, and arguably should, lose her job. Or at the very least be reprimanded.
Agree completely. If I were a buyer, I would assume they are what I see in front of me, and are being sold “as is.” I doubt I’d even sit on either horse. What’s to evaluate? They’re both sore or downright lame. And their dispositions have to be okay, because neither one was ornery enough to maim the one human who deserved it. Bottom line, this is more or less a mercy purchase at this point.
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Have to add that I expected to come on here and find that he’d posted his Ode to the Life of a Wandering Cowboy and ended this charade. But alas, he has not.
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I keep looking for that too… plz let it end…
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Yes. I hoped it would be over by now. I suspect, hope and pray that once he’s completed his “destiny” journey and realizes that there is no place in his life for two broken down horses, he will come to his senses and sell them to someone for a reasonable price. I don’t think he’ll dump them because there are people out there who will pay $$ for them, just not $60K.
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