A New Wave of KeyBoard Warriors?

That’s the troubling part. I’d almost feel better if the comments were hateful for the sake of someone trying to make a buck. Rather, the 100+ comments on the post, most are so earnest and well-meaning (particularly young riders/young adults) who really believe we are tyrannical horseman, and they have to save the animals or no one else will.

And just from a little knowledge of social media and how we seek validation from it, I can know, "ok, this group finds a comradery, elevation… by being a voice “to fight for the horses.”

and as @cristalle mentioned, I really just want to unfollow and ignore, but in the back of my mind I see this group growing. What can they do? I don’t know. it’s unsettling

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It was surprising to me how large the “mob” was.

Like, oh wow, this many people are waiting in the wings for an excuse to take down eventing?!?

It’s particularly ironic to me because apart from the risk factor, I feel like event horses collectively have a better QOL than most other disciplines. Eventers “coddle” their horses less than many other competitive disciplines and are more apt to give them more natural living conditions. The horses receive cross training with variety: ring work, jumping, conditioning in open areas, gallops. There is a more awareness and involvement of health and fitness as horses are presented to vets and officials multiple times in a competition at the upper levels; that’s not to say bad eggs don’t squeak by, but it’s a lot harder when you know there will be eyes on your horse in multiple jogs and in the vet box.

Compare that with an obese show horse who never does any work outside the perfectly manicured arena, gets 1hr of turnout a day when the weather is perfect, and now needs double the “prep” since USEF banned depo…

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There’s an interesting dynamic with online infotainment, whether produced by amateurs or by corporations like BuzzFeed.

The important metric is views, likes, engagement. These metrics drive both your ranking in search algorithms and what kind of monetization is possible on your platform. There is a surprising amount of money to be made from mediocre YouTube blogs that are “monetized” and run ads, quite apart from actual product sponsorships.

To improve your metrics you need to improve audience and the easiest way to do this is to create controversy and raise the anxiety level of your audience.

So as an online self styled equine body worker you could end up getting a nice income boost merely by staging controversy and building your audience. You don’t actually need to be competent at your trade or correct in what you say

There are life stages where either posting or following online controversy is very appealing.

I monitor a local dude who runs a FB & YT page for his very basic training program. He’s irritating and knows less than me about horses. But he has built a huge audience of mostly non riders or beginner riders who like watching his random unbroken horses play in the paddock. Absolutely this is an income stream, more than he makes from training.

There are also the Need Hay Now!! rescue groups that foster an ongoing sense of urgency and go to heroic lengths to save very insound horses.

In both cases, the social media presence is the money spinner, as long as they can keep eyeballs on its revenue from the platforms as well as fundraising.

I might comment once on a FB post. I don’t bother on YT too many comments, they get lost. But I also don’t argue with idiots online

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The social media algorithms will create a loop that gives the user “more” and more extreme, and then promotes it to the users networks. So in this case, there was probably one “power” poster with a lot of followers, they posted/engaged, then the story was boosted to their feed with their outraged/negative comment shown first. And then their like-minded network piled on. Then the algorithm showed all those people more posts and cross-pollinated.

*Not saying you need the explainer, Scribbler, just laying it out for posterity

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I feel like this post on eventers might have originated with TTHW.

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The bodyworker on IG is also woowoo about barefoot, bareback, and bridleless. She wasn’t this way until recently, several months ago I enjoyed her reasonable and educational posts. From what I’ve seen this trend of late is all.about the clicks and thus income.

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This is why orgs need to pay someone who knows shit stirrers like TTHW and Dressage Hub so they can clean up their own feeds, or just turn off commenting entirely!

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I have come across quite a few self appointed saviours of the horses and their mobs - they are so convinced that they are 100% right and they see evil horse abusers in everything - the old “you see what you want to see” and they desperately want to see something to save the horse from. Sad thing is when they do have a good point the moderate normal horse people don’t listen because they present every thing in such a drama fest of panic, hysterics and emotion. If the poster had said “wow that would be a hard back to fit a saddle too” there could have been productive discussion about saddle fit and top line conformation but they chose a witch hunt approach instead and people watch the trainwreck but don’t share any real education.

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They won’t be happy until all the horses are barefoot, bareback, war-bridled and turmeric-infused as “nature” intended

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I am pretty sure https://www.instagram.com/abequinetherapy/ stirred up the mob. Which I just read as self-serving. It drives revenue back to her page and if 10 people buy her online course it was worth it to make an extremist, anxiety provoking post.

In contract another body worker with an online presence, https://www.instagram.com/freelyforwardbodywork/ also promotes her online business, but does so without fear mongering.

Also interesting that all the comments are coming at the FEI not the riders, which not saying riders should be attacked, but I have a hard time believing these pitchfork mobsters are truly promoting the FEI should be banning all horses from competing if they don’t have a 10/10 topline?

This social media account is one that my erstwhile young friend shares and promotes on her own social media as a source of thought provoking and valid evaluation of horse well-being. :frowning:

The struggle with all things social media. Need to provide no evidence before spewing half truths as cold hard facts.

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My goodness, that individual certainly stirs up her followers (and I certainly won’t be adding to that population)! I was thinking of another couple of individuals that seem to have a slightly less militant following. It wouldn’t be difficult.

Sad too, because they may be conveying useful information. I have always traditionally tried to read all opinions. I really hate the fact that social media tends to generate these tribal reactions.

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A lot of it is coming from a particular saddle fitter as well. She was one of the first I saw trying to take down eventers, saddle fit, and the dip behind the weather. She got a vet in with her now who also has a particular narrative she is pushing.

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I took an equine massage class not too long ago. I’m and older rider and just looking to keep my also older horse comfortable as we both become more stiff and less agile.

One section of the course was aimed at being able to identify areas on a horse that need attention and assessing what might have created the issue in the first place. (tie downs, heavy hands, poor saddle fit, etc) I very quickly nicknamed the section “the judgemental pearl clutching section”. I don’t remember a single picture posted that was met with pure objective comments. It was all, “oh the poor horse, his owner must not care, horse is a hot mess, needs chiro/massage/PEMF/etc” I get that most of the people commenting were raised at a time when they always had the internet and are used to they ‘keyboard warrior / no accountability’ culture, but it really did turn me off to not see the comments reined in a bit by the instructor.

I agree with Texarkana that bodywork is the next frontier. I do enjoy giving my horse his massages and I do work on other people’s horses and dogs, but I don’t pretend to be anything I’m not. This mob style bandwagon stuff is really getting on my nerves, particularly when I know the people commenting don’t even participate in the sport they are trashing.

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Full disclosure: I am supportive of body work 100%. I bring practitioners out to work on my horses all the time.

I’m just not supportive of the mindset that all your horse’s problems will be magically cured if you just do 3-5 body work du jour sessions a week. Just like @tbchick84 said, it becomes this mob mentality.

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Texarkana nailed it - body work in general is a useful tool as part of an overall management plan, but the body work du jour is not the magic cure for everything that may or may not be wrong with your horse and won’t do squat for performance if you don’t put the work and time into your riding skills

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I noticed the article in H&H and it’s not the first I’ve seen there.

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Works with a vet that is the prodigy of the self-righteousness, and slightly unhinged Dr. Declue who produced this wild rant. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-horse-first-a-veterinary-sport-horse-podcast/id1435735981?i=1000598724348

My goodness. Social media is full of ignorant (not stupid just uninformed or uneducated in the subject matter) people. You will NEVER change that. Having angst over it is futile. FB. Instagram Twitter. All the things have given voice to legions of lemmings who know no better and just follow some freaking dodo fomenting clicks. Trying to right the onslaught of social media whores is like tilting windmills. Just not worth it. Live your real life and ignore the ridiculous people. They are like zombies. Ubiquitous but easy to get rid of if you’re savvy.

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