A Question for Handlers

I’ve been in the hunter world most of my life, so I know that if a rider has multiple horses per division, he/she could ask someone else to hack/model/jog their horse and still get credit for the ride.

But how do you professional handlers show multiple babies in the hunter breeding classes and still get the credit??

They have someone hold the horse until after they show the horse to the judge then switch off and show the other horse to the judge.

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They have someone hold the horse until after they show the horse to the judge then switch off and show the other horse to the judge.[/QUOTE]

This. There is a rule in my old zone, don’t know the wording, that the handler for HB has to be able to jog the horse. Years ago, someone with a cane wanted to just stand them and someone else jog and wasn’t allowed I believe. Anyone confirm? And you can’t switch in HB at Devon, not sure about others.

So you can’t switch handlers at Devon? Are there other shows that you know of like that?

Devon is the only place you can’t handle more than one horse per class.

A HORSE can only have one handler that presents it to the judge and jogs it. A HANDLER can show more than one horse, as long as he does the above, and can have helpers hold horses while he shows another. Devon explicitly forbids this, but is the only east coast show that does, AFAIK.

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A HORSE can only have one handler that presents it to the judge and jogs it. A HANDLER can show more than one horse, as long as he does the above, and can have helpers hold horses while he shows another. Devon explicitly forbids this, but is the only east coast show that does, AFAIK.[/QUOTE]

100% correct… At any HB show, a handler may show as many horses in a class as they like unless prohibited in the show’s rules (eg Devon).
The horse is only to be presented to the judge by one person at any given time… Meaning 2 people may not present a horse to a judge by one holding the reins and the other standing in front of it crinkling a candy wrapper or small tree branch… This rule was actually initiated and put in place because a well known person used to do just that ;).

And, having said all that, most handlers use another handler to show their overload most of the time. It is really hard, and tiring, to show more than one, particularly in a small class. But the option to show multiples is there if they choose to use it.

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And, having said all that, most handlers use another handler to show their overload most of the time. It is really hard, and tiring, to show more than one, particularly in a small class. But the option to show multiples is there if they choose to use it.[/QUOTE]

Hi,
It is actually legal to have one handler stand up the horse and one handler jog the horse. The rule talks about two handlers at the same time. One standing up and one jogging is not considered the same time. This was told to me by Julie Winkel at the Judging Clinic at Upperville in 2012. One year at Devon Mrs Wheeler stood up a baby and another gentleman jogged it. I couldn’t believe it myself at the Judging Clinic, but you learn something every day.

She’s not correct. The rule came to be because A handler here in VA was having someone jog his horses for him and the handlers out here got tired of it. I was around when it was passed. You cannot have someone else jog your horse.

I just read the wording, and it is not worded well. But the intent was to stop the jogging by a second handler, and it hasn’t been seen here since the rule passed. So everyone believes the intent.

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Hi,
It is actually legal to have one handler stand up the horse and one handler jog the horse. The rule talks about two handlers at the same time. One standing up and one jogging is not considered the same time. This was told to me by Julie Winkel at the Judging Clinic at Upperville in 2012. One year at Devon Mrs Wheeler stood up a baby and another gentleman jogged it. I couldn’t believe it myself at the Judging Clinic, but you learn something every day.[/QUOTE]

This is the “well known person” I was referring to…along with the crinkling candy wrapper and shaking the small tree branch…they didn’t care that Mrs. Wheeler had someone else jog it, just that she was “handling” it and never actually touched the reins! The groom held it the whole time while she just got its ears up and accepted the blue ribbon it won… The Usef HB committee created the rule to cut out this type of dog and pony show…

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A HORSE can only have one handler that presents it to the judge and jogs it. [/QUOTE]

Trots. No more jogging. :slight_smile:

Golly! I’ve just sent in my entries to Warrenton with no handler for my yearling colt in the regular HB and the SBW. I put myself in as handler! BUT if anyone wants to actually take my pretty colt and show him for me, once I have in him the ring, I’d actually love that! I’m lame, but that’s never stopped me, since I’m serviceably sound!

Jog/trot, haven’t seen it make a particle of difference yet, nor has any handler been told to move 'em out. The shufflers still shuffle and the trotters still trot.