Is there any source for the approximate percentage of AAs riding at every level?
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Interesting question. I think it’s going to drastically decline above first or second level. And almost none on the true international level. It’s going to vary a lot by area, more cash can mean more AA riding GP levels. Where I live even the pros don’t ride about fourth much.
I’m looking for data, if it exists.
The broad answer is no, dont think so. But your question can be read several ways:
- if there are 1000 total registered AAs at USDF, what % of those are at each level (and what % doesnt show at all)
- if there are 1000 AA’s who show in any given period what % of those are at each level
- what is the % of AA’s as compared to open riders at any level.
It is an interesting question and however you measure, its pretty certain that the # at training level is much bigger than 3rd, which is bigger than PSG.
EDITED to add - you might check with USDF - they would probably know if there’s data but I suspect not…
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I wonder whether a mid-size GMO, like around 300 members, could provide a good representation. And I agree, the showing/not showing factor muddies the waters.
Northern Ohio Dressage has over 300 members; my old stomping ground, where I was “lucky” enough to be treasurer…I moved in 2009, so cant speak for now but they didnt track that when I was there. It would be a special project type thing for someone to figure it out, but yes it would probably be a decent estimate in the end.
Another idea, though it would be biased towards all “better” riders would be to look at Regionals in each region, see how many AA’s qualify in each of the divisions and do that math. Those lists are available on USDF website.
If you can find online show data for typical shows you can easily look at the order of go and draw some conclusions.
What’s the real question you’re trying to answer?
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If the data exists in a format that works for you, I’d think that the USDF would have it.
If it is really important for you - I’d see about contacting the larger software/entry/scoring people (or the USDF) to see if they would be willing to provide you the data in a CSV setup that you could manipulate into the numbers you are looking for.
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USDF use to publish this information in their magazine. It has been many years since I have seen it
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Yes, I thought I remembered that.
This article may have some stats but it’s a bit older: (PDF) Scoring Variables and Judge Bias in United States Dressage Competitions (researchgate.net)
I also found this but it doesn’t list out amateurs: 2021 Membership Statistics - Fall.pdf (usdf.org)
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I’d love to know how many ammys and how many riders overall compete at each level. Denny Emmerson, many years back, researched Eventing stats for a COTH article and at the time IIRC fewer than 1% of starters at horse trials competed at advanced, about 3% at intermediate, 6 or 7% at prelim, 25% at training and 75% at novice or below. I’d love to see some similar stats for dressage. Just out of curiosity and to give some perspective.
I would contact the USDF directly and see if they can break down the 2019 show season by participation and status. Membership does not equal showing. I think Badgers number and the pyramid it forms stands up pretty well for Dressage , as a generality
