About to try the Stubben Portos Elite Saddle

Anyone have one or can offer any feedback?

It’s a newer (than say a Siegfried) model with 'half panels"

Link: http://stubbennorthamerica.com/product/s-portos-elite/

My horse has a really unusual back with a decided need for a narrow tree and so the saddle hunt has been prolonged and depressing. We’re trying Stubbens and County’s now.

These brands are already out for a combination of reasons:

Toulouse
CWD
Devocoux
Prestige
Amerigo
Voltaire
Butet
Thornhill
Pessoa
Antares

And we’re trying to avoid full custom as I have been through the process before and didn’t love it.

Any and all advice is welcome. I am working with a skilled saddle fitter. He’s been working well with my Stackhouse off the rack Xc/foxhunting saddle but in the 20 years I have owned it, now it’s rubbing me raw. Bummer.

Emily

I like the Portos. I think it is one I tried when I tried Stubbens, and it was one of the models I really liked (The other was the Zaria).

I find that Countys are often best for truly narrow horses. He may surprise you and be better off in a Stubben, but it seems like most of the slab sided, truly narrow TBs I have met have been happiest in a County.

Out of all the Stubbens, that actually looks nice! I usually hate the look of Stubbens, always hard looking and weird. That one I like.

Stubbens are a banana tree, I hear you Can do custom with Stubbens without breaking the bank!

There is KenTaur, which is more in the UK, but a nice looking brand.

I have a Portos (non-elite) and I tried both the S and the Elite. Long story on how I ended up with mine but the Elite really impressed me. The only thing I could pick to complain about is that the leather isn’t that nice, sticky, butter-soft leather you get on the French saddles. But honestly, that’s just if I’m being picky. I think they’re a great buy.

A friend has a Portos for her wide Connemara X and she LOVES it. I never sat in one on a horse but did sit in the entire line at the store when a rep brought the whole array for us to try. A co-worker who has a Devoucoux was very impressed. I also liked the Zaria, which I am told is often a good fit for the more TB types.

And we’re sunk again.

Portos Elite has arrived with my fitter and she is very dismayed to see that it has foam and felt panels. On a normal horse this may be something we could consider, but not with Gin. He’s already needed 3 adjustments to his current saddle as his muscling changed.

Back to the drawing board.

Em

County. I bet you’ll end up with a County.

I’m pretty sure you can get a new Stubben with wool panels. They have a surprising selection of custom options.

You can get Stubben with wool panels - it may just be that the particular one was manufactured with foam.

Have you tried the Passier Klimke?

I recently purchased a Stubben S Get Connected for my TB, it is a 30 tree, previous to this he went in a MN County Stabilizer. We have an excellent saddle fitter and the County fit him perfect, but he hated jumping with the County on. The S Get Connected he loves . A 29 would have fit him as well. The S Get Connected in wool flocked.

Agree that you can order the Portos with wool.

My rep checked. Can’t get THIS model with wool. Can get regular Portos.

That saddle doesn’t appeal to me.

Em

Might be too close to Butet to work, but I loved my friend’s Beval Natural, as did Toucan. Super well balanced; good for big shouldered TBs. I don’t remember if it was wool or foam though - it was older.

at the risk of sounding way off base, what kind of tree does your horse need?

circuit (dover’s line) just came out with a monoflap event saddle that i hear has a lot of rave reviews with the department.

Have you looked at Smith Worthington? They have a huge selection of seat/flap types, and will absolutely work until the saddle fits your horse. They aren’t cheap, but the quality is top shelf.

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at the risk of sounding way off base, what kind of tree does your horse need?

circuit (dover’s line) just came out with a monoflap event saddle that i hear has a lot of rave reviews with the department.[/QUOTE]

No wider than 28 cm with wool flocking to adjust to his back.

I didn’t think it’d be this hard. Saddle companies love medium trees, Gin doesn’t.

Emily

I suggest either calling Stubben and working directly with one of their fitters (a farm visit is very reasonable–it cost me $100 last year) or calling Smith Worthington as suggested above. They have lots of saddles (mostly wool-flocked) that are not even listed on their website. They can probably find you something in your budget and will absolutely work with you to make sure it fits.

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I suggest either calling Stubben and working directly with one of their fitters (a farm visit is very reasonable–it cost me $100 last year) or calling Smith Worthington as suggested above. They have lots of saddles (mostly wool-flocked) that are not even listed on their website. They can probably find you something in your budget and will absolutely work with you to make sure it fits.[/QUOTE]

My saddle fitter is a Stubben Rep for sales, but she does independent saddle fittings. She is speaking with Stubben and getting a quote for what the total cost to make a Portos elite with wool flocked panels would be.

I will look into SW too. Thanks for the suggestions on that brand. May have also stumbled onto a consignment saddle that might work. We’ll see.

~Emily

I have a 28 cm Excalibur if you are interested in a monoflap. My young horse just outgrew it. I can hand it off to Stephanie if you want to try it (I board my retired horse at her barn). It’s a 17.5.

Hmmmm That’s interesting Mel. Maybe. Let me think on it. My hesitation is that my Stackhouse is already a forward cut and I’d like to get back to a more traditional Close contact, but I’m also pretty ouchy… So maybe.

I’ll send you a note on FB once I discuss it with Stephanie.

Em