Altering Tack Trunks

Hi all,

I have a very nice tack trunk from my last barn (before I stopped riding for 6 years) and now I’m back in the saddle riding at a different barn, but still have my old trainer’s logo on my trunk.

I cannot, in any way, afford a brand new trunk. There’s a possibility of buying a used one from a previous client, or I can change the panels out on my current trunk to my new trainer’s colors/logo.

Question is-

How do I go about buying/changing panels for a tack trunk, who/where do I buy these, and where would I get them installed? Is this a more cost effective way of doing things, or would the used trunk from previous client be a better option (I think she’s selling it for under $500).

OR

Could I build one (or, have my Dad or SO build one) out of nice wood, and then buy a tack trunk cover in her colors/logo… and even if I could, how cost effective would that be?

Not sure the make of your trunk, but I know McGuinn’s will re-cover a trunk. However, I think with shipping both ways you might be better off buying the used one.

LetItBe

Q but why do you need any trainers logo on your tack trunk? wouldn’t you want your own details on it?

Is it paintable? that to me would be the quickest and easiest fix.

OP, you go back to the manufacturer of the trunk and have them make the panels in your trainer’s design. That works if your new barn has her artwork with the same company that made the trunk. Or you might get lucky and have the maker who regularly does your current pro’s trunks have a template for making panels to fit another company’s trunk.

It will probably be much cheaper and easier to buy the departing client’s trunk.

It seems to me that your trainer can help you engineer this. After all, she picked her trunk manufacturer in the first place. She should be able to tell you how to work with them.

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Q but why do you need any trainers logo on your tack trunk? wouldn’t you want your own details on it?

Is it paintable? that to me would be the quickest and easiest fix.[/QUOTE]

The logo for my (old) trainer is… embedded? I guess, in the panel. I want a trunk to match the rest of my barn, as I don’t ever plan on leaving, though I do like the idea of having my initials on it, and not opposed to the idea, I would like a trunk that matches my barn.

I have, at least in this area, never seen tack trunks set up at a show with personal initials on them, rather, they have barn/logos on them.

My trunk, while wooden, has panels on it (that have been suggested I change out to current barn’s logo/colors etc.).

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OP, you go back to the manufacturer of the trunk and have them make the panels in your trainer’s design. That works if your new barn has her artwork with the same company that made the trunk. Or you might get lucky and have the maker who regularly does your current pro’s trunks have a template for making panels to fit another company’s trunk.

It will probably be much cheaper and easier to buy the departing client’s trunk.

It seems to me that your trainer can help you engineer this. After all, she picked her trunk manufacturer in the first place. She should be able to tell you how to work with them.[/QUOTE]

THIS is the info I needed!

Thank you. I will figure out who all makes which all trunks who belong to who, and make some calls!

And also, probably buy old client’s trunk :stuck_out_tongue:

My friend bought new panels from the trunk manufacturer and took off the old panels and put on the new. She said it was not hard. Price the new panels and see what the difference is compared to buying the used trunk.
I now have wooden tack box that works with every barn - my old one with the old trainer logo is my everyday box and the wood one the show box.

I was going to do this once and then realized that I would spend almost as much swapping out the panels as buying a used one with the current barn’s panels.

Also, be aware that if the lid needs to be changed, you have to get a new lid because that topmost “panel” can’t be removed/replaced.

OP, there are three main manufacturers who make those vinyl paneled trunks you are talking about: Phoenix West, McGuinn Farms and Oakcroft (I think). And, yes, the vinyl panels are made in layers, so you get colors as well as bas relief. They are custom made according to the design that the barn created and sent to them when they were setting things up. Usually, new clients are simply told what to buy and sent to the manufacturer already chosen. Or, even better, the barn orders what the client will need and bills the client.

$500 for a large size custom trunk is a good deal… even before you place a value on being matchy-match. To buy a new trunk might be $900-$1,200!

We had car wraps put on ours to cover old logos and I SWEAR you can’t tell the difference

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OP, there are three main manufacturers who make those vinyl paneled trunks you are talking about: Phoenix West, McGuinn Farms and Oakcroft (I think). And, yes, the vinyl panels are made in layers, so you get colors as well as bas relief. They are custom made according to the design that the barn created and sent to them when they were setting things up. Usually, new clients are simply told what to buy and sent to the manufacturer already chosen. Or, even better, the barn orders what the client will need and bills the client.

$500 for a large size custom trunk is a good deal… even before you place a value on being matchy-match. To buy a new trunk might be $900-$1,200![/QUOTE]

Many thanks!

Yes, it’s a steal of a deal for the used one, in great condition too.

I talked to my SO about building one- he said he could, though, I don’t know, it seems like a big hassle as he works full time, and I’m useless when it comes to building anything :wink:

It’s expensive to replace the panels. I can’t remember exactly how much mine cost to get from McGuinn, but between the price of buying the trunk from the previous client and replacing the panels, it cost me about as much as a new trunk. I want to say it Cost around $400. But, if you can get panels for cheaper (I know you can, I just can’t tell you from where) then that might be a good option. A plain wood trunk always matches!

I say buy the used one for the new barn, then sell your old one to a client in the old barn to pay for it.:winkgrin:

Some times it’s beneficial to just alter the panels, but I remember when we did our trunks from our trainers to our own it was about $500-600+ to repanel them. Call for quotes for sure with your trainer, if your trainer has a barn account some where you may get better pricing. But either venture isn’t super cheap. If the one the old client has is identical to what you want to get then maybe just buy that one and sell yours.

It depends on what you need to change to get the trunk to match. If it is just the front panel, then buying a used trunk and changing the front panel out is easy and cost effective.

If it is changing out the front, two side panels and a lid and painting or staining the bumpers, you will be better off to sell your trunk to the last barn and then purchase a new one.

For all of the above, I’m assuming that you are talking about a vinyl paneled trunk.

The panels aren’t difficult to change out. Most of the time the guys at the barn do it. If you’re at a big show barn, they have more than likely done a lot of them over the years.

Whomever said that you can’t change out a lid is partially correct. This isn’t something that you can do yourself because the metal needs to be wrapped around the lid and I guess it is difficult to do. You would have to mail the old lid back to the company and have them redo it. By the time you factor in shipping both ways, you’re better off just getting a new lid.

If you know who made the trunk, you can get a quote to replace what you need. Options such as extra letters, piping, extra borders and special logos can really add up. Your local tack store can help you with pricing even if they didn’t order the initial one. All of the trunk manufacturers keep detailed info on each barn’s custom orders.

Also, keep in mind too that shipping a large trunk requires it to be sent via a freight company and that is about $150+ depending on where it is going and what the cost of gas is at the moment and if there are others on that shipment. Medium and small trunks may be sent via UPS etc so they are much cheaper to send.

As far as making your own trunk, I personally wouldn’t do it. You will always be the odd person out with a non-matching trunk and depending on how OCD your trainer is about matching things at shows, you’ll probably be placed at the end of the aisle if your trunk doesn’t match. I’ve also not seen a home-made trunk that lasts the test of time like the Phoenix West/McGuinn’s trunks. I’ve not had experience with Oakcroft but have seen other fly by night vendors whose trunks were not durable. We have Phoenix West trunks 20 plus years still looking great.

Before I get flamed for how shallow the H/J world is, show set ups are important as a marketing tool etc for many of the trainers and they want to present themselves professionally and so the matching trunks will generally be at the front of the barn. This may not be an issue to you at all, but for some they don’t like being at the far end of the barn aisle.

These are trunks done with car wraps…

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/vxf111/media/Bling/photo16.jpg.html

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/vxf111/media/Bling/photo2-1.jpg.html

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/vxf111/media/Bling/photo3.jpg.html

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These are trunks done with car wraps…

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/vxf111/media/Bling/photo16.jpg.html

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/vxf111/media/Bling/photo2-1.jpg.html

http://s5.photobucket.com/user/vxf111/media/Bling/photo3.jpg.html[/QUOTE]

Yubbut smoothing one of those on over the bas relief vinyl panel will be hard to do really well.

And, OP, you need to think about whether the bumpers of your old trunk match those on current trainer’s trunks. If not, add that bit of work to your cost.

I love the idea of barns owning the trunks and renting them to current clients. And/or facilitating sales for those coming in and out of barns (though I can see how/why this doesn’t happen during trainer divorces.) Best yet is to have artwork that allows clients to personalize their trunks with small things like a brass name plate… so that re-selling a trunk to a new client does not require a major remodeling project.

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Yubbut smoothing one of those on over the bas relief vinyl panel will be hard to do really well.

And, OP, you need to think about whether the bumpers of your old trunk match those on current trainer’s trunks. If not, add that bit of work to your cost.

I love the idea of barns owning the trunks and renting them to current clients. And/or facilitating sales for those coming in and out of barns (though I can see how/why this doesn’t happen during trainer divorces.) Best yet is to have artwork that allows clients to personalize their trunks with small things like a brass name plate… so that re-selling a trunk to a new client does not require a major remodeling project.[/QUOTE]

They did it for us and it looks perfect. Those trunks shown have the wrap with it laid on top of someone else’s bas relief logo and you cannot see or feel it. I don’t know how they did it. Maybe a few layers of the material. It’s perfectly smooth. Those are an example of what a wrap looks like on top of a 3D prior logo. Perfect!

Thanks so much for all the input everyone!!

My current trunk has my name on a brace nameplate. Unfortunately, my old trainer decided to ride the Grand Prixs and not teach anymore. He strictly is a rider, so I did contact him to see if he wanted the trunk, and he does not need it! It would have been nice to sell current trunk, but perhaps that trunk can be used for me at home to store some things, and then have new (used) trunk for shows and current things I always use like my helmet, boots, etc.

As mentioned, if its a vinyl trunk then you can switch out the panels. Yourself. Not hard to do.
However, if you need to switch out ALL the panels it will be cheaper to buy a new trunk.

so cost it out what it would be to buy the used trunk and then swap out the panel with their monogram to your monogram (which is a new panel).
again-sometimes its the same $$$ so its best to just get a new trunk.