Thank you! We had such a great time
How do I see the results of all the divisions so I can check on folks I know? I keep getting sent to the Advanced results by StartBox and cannot get out of it to see any other results.
This works for me.
Go to completed events under scoring, hit results. Then you can hit the divisions you want to see what the results are.
A question on emergency services available at events.
I heard (secondhand) that it took a bit to get help to Liz. Also Iāve now heard that there are not paramedics required but EMTs at events, Even at 5*s.
Is this true (about requirements) and is this a good idea when we consider the level of injury that can occur?
I did google the difference between an EMT and paramedic and it seemed kind of vague and ti maybe vary by state.
What is āit took a bitā? I am sure it was less time than it would have been if there was not emergency services on site.
How many locations on the grounds should they have emergency help? Within how many feet of how many obstacles?
This is a really excellent question and Iām going to start a new thread on it. I am a previous 5* rider and now Iām an emt. My husband was a level 4 TD and is a paramedic and we tried very hard to get the rules changed on this. I will explain in the post
I think this rule change would make lots of events not happen and would raise the cost of those that do. It is hard enough to get an ambulance with an EMT in some places.
It is probably the worst results site I have ever seen however, but if you can avoid the auto spelling and be patient, you can find your friends.
Oh, that is funny.
I like using Startbox.
If you know the division it is easy to find results.
I always struggle with Event Entries. I find it impossible to use if you want information other than an alphabetical list of riders.
What is the price for an airway? What about if you are 45 mins by road and no helicopters are flying? My husband and I own and operate an ALS (advanced life support) ambulance company. We would do something like that (We do BMX racing events) for $1500 a day- if you have 200 competitors thatās $15 a competitorā¦ also many of your local volunteer rescue squads would do it for less.
I think it is great that you have the ability to do this so easily in your area because of the business you own.
I am just going to say, this kind of works like the MER situation. Easy to do in areas where there are lots of events, hard for people who have to travel so far to event.
There are areas who do not have enough ambulance coverage for the day to day life of the area, where it is hard to find an ambulance to have at the event, let alone one with a paramedic, not an EMT in it.
We can make an endless list of what ifs and dramatic, isnāt this life worth itā¦ while we make it impossible for events to happen.
And again, no, I am not against safety. I am simply pointing out that your great business might have clouded your knowledge of what is available in lots of places where there is enough land to hold an event.
Has anyone else been competing at a horse trial with an ambulance on site, and experienced a lengthy delay when that ambulance left to transport an injured rider? I was at one where the ambulance leaving resulted in a hold on course for riders who had started cross country that lasted well over an hour, until another ambulance was procured. I am just wondering how current rules would handle that, as my experience was years ago. The injured rider was in stadium, so the XC course was clear.
Yes. (volunteering, not competing)
Held up everything for an hour.
The event I was at, the fall was on cross country, but the whole event was on hold until another ambulance could be found.
In my area, which is not geographically spread out at all, we have EMTs in basic life support (BLS) units stationed at fire departments and then advanced life support (ALS) units that are run by the hospital at their own stations.
Depending on the day, we can have multiple collisions, medical events at residences or other locations, LE requesting BLS for transport for suicidal subjects or medical issues (incarceritis generally), and absolutely no units left to just at an event. Heck we had to move things around to clear for two medical units and several fire units to leave a community event for a collision. We used to have medical units stationed at parades and then mobile medics stationed out of a rig but on foot and carrying BLS supplies for things like heat stroke etc, and no more. There isnāt the funding or staffing or both. I canāt imagine saying there canāt be a horse event if there isnāt a dedicated rig standing byā¦
exact thing happened to me and I was held for over 45 minutes. I wish I had of known it would be that long or I would have just scratched. My mare jiggy jogged the entire time and I was exhausted by the time we started back up!
It was stated somewhere that one of the fence judges was a nurse and actually called emergency ahead of time so they could prepare for Lizās arrival.
I was there volunteering in a different area but we had multiple radios covering all things including XC and the EMTs. The time between the call for medics and them getting to her was minimal and they had 911 called almost immediately once the situation was accessed (and they were given a heads up that 911 would likely need to be called as they were heading that way). Perhaps the person thinking it took a long time doesnāt not understand how much area a few medics have to cover. Unless they were at that jump, it would take a bit even flooring it in their gator.
Was there an ambulance on the grounds already?
Plus medics arenāt just going to thrown the person on a gurney and take them off. They have to do an assessment on the spot so that they donāt do something that would make the situation worse.
Iām not actually sure. I didnāt go on XC that day and Iām trying to recall if there is one normally. That being said, UKY is minutes down the road and were dispatched pretty fast.