I’m looking at this boy who stands in Washington State for my ISH mare as frozen semen is available to UK breeders. Just wanted to ask if anyone has experience of his youngstock, and in particular, if you have used him on an TB x ID mare I would love to see any photos of the resulting offspring?
I have not bred to him but have seen many nice foals at the Swedish inspections out of a variety of mare types. Does Mary still own him and still have a website? There would be pictures there.
Thanks Partita - yes she does, and there are some great foal photos on her website. I was just especially interested in seeing any offspring from an Amorex x ISH mare mating. Good to hear that you have seen many nice foals by him. I am increasingly inclined to go for him this year, but as the costs of transporting/importing frozen semen from NA to the UK are pretty steep I want to be as certain as you can ever be that it would be a good nick.
I own this stallion’s half-sister (same mother). I have a picture of their dam, Norea, receiving her Elite Mare award in Sweden for the superior quality of her foals and their success in sport.
My mare has had a few exceptional foals. She, herself, has Class I scores in Sweden before coming to North America. Her filly was sired by Vivaldi and has also scored Class I scores at MPT. She had a colt sired by Freestyle for a previous owner who is super gorgeous.
I’m only stating all of this to tell you this is a highly successful lineage through the damline, which my mare shares with him; however, Amorex also has a super sireline. I’ve done a bit of research so I can tell you some things about the family tree as my mare’s sire is a different son of the great Napoleon.
Amorex doubles up on Utrillo, once through the Maraton line (who is the grandsire to extremely successful competitive and breeding stallion Briar 899) and once in his sireline through Chagall to Iran to Napoleon to Amiral. Napoleon is particularly noted for being extremely successful in dressage and typey. He could jump as well and did produce some international calibre jumpers and dressage horses. Napoleon was awarded the rare predicate of Premium Elite Stallion. His sire, Iran, was a Class A stallion, also a multitalent and producer of multitalent - his kids performed in all 3 sports, as did Chagall (Elite Stallion), and Utrillo (Premium Elite). Utrillo stood at the state stud Flyinge.
Amorex’s sire’s damsire was the great Flamingo, an Olympian and World Champion dressage master who stood at the state stud in Flyinge. He was drop-dead gorgeous and he continued family tradition and produced elitists in all 3 sports - eventing, jumping and dressage. Of the stallions that Flamingo produced, he produced 2 sons in particular who were exceptional - Flamenco and Flaminko. Flamenco went to the USA. Flaminko came to Canada where I personally had the opportunity to ride this Grand Prix stallion and became very good friends with his owners who had brought him and 10 of their mares with them when they immigrated to Canada from Sweden. He was an exceptionally kind stallion, easy and fun to ride, with super temperament. He was extremely athletic and very gifted with the piaffe. Most of his offspring were sold sight unseen and Drs Berg enjoyed a lot of success with their mares crossed to their gorgeous stallion. The youngsters were easy to handle with good brains, very typical of this whole lineage. They have long since retired now and in their retirement they gelded Flaminko.
Amorex’s sire’s dam producing a whopping FIVE stallions. If you know anything about Sweden this is a nearly impossible feat for a mare to achieve, but she did it. She produced 17 offspring all total. This is in a day and time when ET was not happening. Her notable sons were Talisman, Bombay, the Mistral, and Amiral. Of her daughters several of them achieved their Diploma Elite or Elite Premium status. Bombay competed internationally in dressage. Amiral of course was an Olympian, World Cup champion in Dressage and produced elitist kids in 3 sports. He eventually came to the USA. Amiral is, of course, Amorex’s sire.
The damsire, Maraton, was an extremely good looking stallion who had superior temperament, rideability and athleticism. He competed in the international showjumping circuit, but was particularly noted to produce international competitors in all 3 sports - eventing, jumping and dressage.
Maraton’s mother was also a S-level showjumper. Two of her daughters went to high level show jumping and a third daughter showed to intermediate level of dressage. And each of those mares in turn produced elite offspring. So this is a very successful line too.
Toreador stood in Denmark, and I am unsure of his personal showing history, but he has offspring at the international elite level in both dressage and showjumping.
My mare, Amorex’s sister, is now rising 19, but she was shown in dressage to some extent in the USA. I never had the chance to ride her, but when I talked to a previous owner on the phone about her, she mentioned how much fun she was to ride. She is, hands down, my favorite mare out of my entire gang. She is a big, bright girl with a lot of intelligence shining through her eyes. She has a ton and a half of personality, is very kind and very straight-forward to handle. She will try, try, try for you to do whatever you ask the best she can. Amorex is, apparently, very similar to his sister - loads of try and pleasing, excellent rideability, and very pleasant all around. I have not yet had a chance to fly down and meet him in person, but it is something I will be doing in the near future.
The dual purpose, good nature, easy character is very trademark of the particular lineages found in both Amorex and my mare. I think you will not be disappointed by a foal from him. (And no, I get no monetary gain from anything with him).
Rodawn thank you so much for that fabulous feedback on Amorex, it’s exactly the detail and information that I was looking for. Not knowing a great deal about SWBs it’s also an education for me!
He sounds as though he would be an ideal choice for my mare : this will probably be her last foal (she’s 17), and I really wanted to breed something special, but also something that would be suitable for my son-in-law, who is currently an inexperienced rider but by the time the youngster will have been backed and trained on a little hopes to have significantly increased his skill and experience. So in terms of temperament, potential, but suitability for an ammie rider Amorex sounds ideal. So far my mare has produced very trainable offspring; her first foal won the British Young Event Horse Yearling Championships in 2007, and her second foal is now proving to be “one of the best five-year olds we’ve ever had”, learning his trade as the whipper-in horse with the Albrighton Woodland Hunt. Conformationally she could do with improvement on a slightly upright shoulder and more strengths in the loin area.
Thank you for the kind words; just saw this. Amorex’s frozen is available in Canada, and ready to ship into Europe(frozen to EU standards). If you are still interested, I have some photos and videos of the crosses you are considering… he may also be available in the US with fresh-cooled; will have word on that very soon (and a very reasonable deal!). See his Facebook page for more info…
thank you
Mary
Amorex was standing in the Portland, Oregon area in the past and he had many babies and older get around and I always found them to be good moving and very pretty horses. I could always identify an Amorex horse
and I always like them.
Amorex is nice, bit I wouldn’t breed an ID cross w/ANY warmblood stallion. I’d stick to a TB or another Irish stallion.
We regularly cross warmblood mares on Irish Draught stallions and have been very happy with the results. Amorex has had a very nice IDSH filly out of a ISH Diamond Lad daughter. The ID adds toughness, great canters and walks, an easy temperament that is tolerant and forgiving of mistakes. Depending on the ID you will get more substance. Our foals have been very consistant so it is not like wildly different heavy draft/light horse crosses where you get a mixmash of results. PatO
