Andalusion x warmblood?

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By any chance do you remember the farm name or if they had a link? Im considering breeding my anglo-arab mare to an andalusion or lusitano but havent really found the stallion for her yet.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, I don’t … this was years ago and pre-Internet … back in the early 1970s.

Oddly enough, I was just offered another Andalusian-x mare, this one Andalusian/TB, who is amazingly similar to the Andalusian/TB gelding I had in Spain. The owner has sent me a couple of photos of some of her offspring by both TB and Warmblood stallions. Very tempting.

Do it! Do it! Do it!

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A very good girlfriend of mine rides primarily classical dressage on Andalusians.

She has ridden warmbloods, TB’s and everything in between and has fallen in love with the Andalusians.
She recommended that everyone try riding an Andalusian, but to remember that they are NOT a horse for everyone!

She referred to them as being very very smart and sensitive - and not to bash the general H/J/Dressage rider - she mentioned that a lot of people will not be able to ride them well immediately… that many riders will ride too ‘heavy’ for the breed and will need to alter their rides to suit the horse.

Just some food for thought when thinking about your breeding crosses etc!

For those near Alberta, one of the Andalusians she rides is a LOVELY stallion with the most fantastic personality named Don Bandido! I think they are a little strict and limiting his breeding, but he is worth seeing for sure… check her website if you’re interested

http://elationequineservices.weebly.com/for-salestud.html

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  • she mentioned that a lot of people will not be able to ride them well immediately… that many riders will ride too ‘heavy’ for the breed and will need to alter their rides to suit the horse.[/QUOTE]

I believe this to be very much the case. For me, I came to Andalusians from mostly TBs and racing QHs so my ‘touch’ tended to be fairly light … I was just overwhelmed by the fact that the 3 year old Andalusians didn’t buck the first six rides like I was used to.

Since then, I have ridden warmbloods and can definitely see where someone coming from warmbloods to Andalusians would have to modify how they were cueing the horse.

" part of the reason I picked my mare. I was taught to have very light hands, and she actually responds to that light touch.

I broke her myself too and we only had one good buck incident which was me rushing her into a situation where I was flustered and she was nervous and was really my own fault. (Didn’t even get me off, I bailed so I could get a hold of her) I’ve ridden a couple bad buckers in my days, she barely tried.

They do mature a little later then a QH/TB mentally & physically, so you may be keeping a cross out to pasture for an extra year.

Looking for information on what registries the foals would be eligible for… expecting two AndalusianX QH spring 2012… any information or good links for Aztecas appreciated. Fine to PM me with more information, thanks.

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Sorry that’s AndalusiAn…it won’t let me go back and change the heading: )[/QUOTE]

Yes it will if you go back and hit Edit and then hit the Go Advanced button next to the Save.

p.s. everyone else can also use this for correcting the horrendous spelling, typo errors too, esp in the titles.

Griffyn I posted two on the first page; you may want to look at the IALHA or the AAHIA.

I also wanted to add, when considering an Andy/AndyX they are SMART. My gal loves to learn new things, but she’s not too hot about our re-affirming the basics. So you’ve got to keep things interesting or you’ll get taken along for the ride. 2 or 3 figure-8s is enough to make her thing she knows where we’re going and just carry along on her own with little direction.

I actually am planning to breed an Andi or Lusitano cross for myself in the near future. I love both Saphiro and the buckskin boy that was mentioned. This would be my retirement horse that I hope to just have fun with. I just don’t have the “right” mare at this time. I would think a quiet, lighter built warmblood would be the best fit, but my warmblood girls are all pretty heavy and my TB mare I feel might not be a good cross either. I’m in no rush but have been keeping my eyes open. I’ve seen many beautiful crosses. The purebred would be too tough a ride for my bad back or that would be what I would do.

What do you think about a lighter more modern Morgan mare? Some of the more modern morgans are gorgeous and have pretty nice gaits. I’m thinking like the Statesman line or something similiar. Also, if you could find an Appaloosa that isn’t all QH with spots (or not), one of the more foundation bloodlines or even App racing bloodlines if it’s TB blood mixed in and not QH. Maybe it would get spots and a better tail?? I had some wonderful Appaloosa growing up (they looked very little like what you usually see these days). Two that I had were barely horse size, light but dense bone, great feet of iron (kept barefoot), could out jump horses much bigger than they were and although not dressage gaits per se they certainly were not daisy cutters. They had nice free shoulders and a very strong hindend. Anyway, those are some of the ideas I’ve been toying with. I also thing an Anglo arab mare might work as well.

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What do you think about a lighter more modern Morgan mare? Some of the more modern morgans are gorgeous and have pretty nice gaits. I’m thinking like the Statesman line or something similiar. Also, if you could find an Appaloosa that isn’t all QH with spots (or not), one of the more foundation bloodlines or even App racing bloodlines if it’s TB blood mixed in and not QH. Maybe it would get spots and a better tail?? I had some wonderful Appaloosa growing up (they looked very little like what you usually see these days). Two that I had were barely horse size, light but dense bone, great feet of iron (kept barefoot), could out jump horses much bigger than they were and although not dressage gaits per se they certainly were not daisy cutters. They had nice free shoulders and a very strong hindend. Anyway, those are some of the ideas I’ve been toying with. I also thing an Anglo arab mare might work as well.[/QUOTE]

I have seen some gorgeous, gorgeous Morgan/ Lusitano crosses. I actually would love to breed my sportbred Morgan mare to Saphiro- I think it would be an amazing cross.

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I have seen some gorgeous, gorgeous Morgan/ Lusitano crosses. I actually would love to breed my sportbred Morgan mare to Saphiro- I think it would be an amazing cross.[/QUOTE]

She is beautiful! How big is she, just curious, in my case I can ride smaller horses and large ponies and look fine I’m 5’4.

Every Andalusian/Warmblood cross Ive seen has been amazing! When I mean warmblood cross I dont mean crossed with a QH or TB, I mean a Dutch Warmblood, Oldenburg, etc. I would love to have a horse like that for Dressage, but all the ones Ive seen are very pricey.

Every Andalusian/Warmblood cross Ive seen has been amazing! When I mean warmblood cross I dont mean crossed with a QH or TB, I mean a Dutch Warmblood, Oldenburg, etc. I would love to have a horse like that for Dressage, but all the ones Ive seen are very pricey.

Yes I have a LOVELY lighter dutch wb mare that I was thinking of crossing with Saphiro Johnson. I must say I think he might detract from her movement…but the baby sure would be flashy :slight_smile: Here is the mare in question

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She is beautiful! How big is she, just curious, in my case I can ride smaller horses and large ponies and look fine I’m 5’4.[/QUOTE]

Thank you! She’s 15.1- I just love this mare- I actually got her from a rescue, papers and all. I am really considering doing an embryo transfer with her in a year or so because I’m having too darn much fun riding her :slight_smile:

There are also some very nice andy stallions out there that aren’t cremello :lol:

The morgan would be a good cross! I’m not a huge fan of saphiro (conf. is nice, movement, I’ve seen better). You might want to look at a more small & compact Andy, I think you’d come out with a very nice foal.

There is a lovely Andy stallion that a trainer here recently bought. I have seen him in clinics and am very impressed. Hilda Gurney said he was one of the nicest she’d seen. I’ve heard he was bred to her WB mares. Be curious to see.

Whitaker & Novilheiro

(Not related to the above comment, just impressive)

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There are also some very nice andy stallions out there that aren’t cremello :lol:

The morgan would be a good cross! I’m not a huge fan of saphiro (conf. is nice, movement, I’ve seen better). You might want to look at a more small & compact Andy, I think you’d come out with a very nice foal.[/QUOTE]

Saphiro’s temperament is lovely. He does have an extremely narrow chest though. Just something to keep in mind. Not meant to be a dis on him!

Lovely horses on here. I am a nut for the Iberian types, interesting to see the results of some of these crosses- Was familiar with the Azteca and Hispano Arabe but always wondered about a warmblood cross.