Never heard of this one until today. Looks like it takes about anything? Do any other WB registries accept AES stock for breeding or is it more like ISR?
Jennifer
Who manages it
My colt has been licensed by the AES. Foals by AES stallions can also be registered with the KWPN.
https://angloeuropeanstudbook.co.uk/news/i428/aes-ranked-sixth-at-wbfsh-ranking-2015
https://angloeuropeanstudbook.co.uk/rules-regulations
AES is the national studbook for the UK, it was the 6th highest ranked WBFSH registry in 2015, and AES is accepted by all the major studbooks in the US pending pedigree approval by the breeding committee for some of them. Not sure what the OP means by “it takes about anything,” as AES is not a registry option in the USA to my knowledge.
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AES is not a registry option in the USA to my knowledge.[/QUOTE]
Summer Stoffel (Silver Creek Farm) is now the Manager for AES NA. I’m sure they would be very happy to issue passports for US stock, as I believe they put forth a proposal to the USEF to issue passports for newly chipped horses in the ID program that are not registered with any other studbook.
I would assume AES NA is under the umbrella of and not reciprocal with AES? An AES NA passport would most likely not be accepted by the other studbooks, but I am not familiar with AES NA and that would be an assumption.
Sorry, I clicked on “register a foal” and got a dialog box that said “what is your foals name?” and info on registry/inspection requirements was a little sparse, but “neither parent AES registered” was an option, so I wanted to make sure it wasn’t one of “those” registries.
Jennifer
AES(NA) passports are directly issued from AES. So they are reciprocal. They are one and the same. There had to be an AESNA site because the registration options had to be altered on the form to make sense to NA breeders. But the passports are the same.
Many of the major registries offer “Horse Identification” passports. They do this in the EU because it is a requirement by EU law that every horse have a microchip and a passport with a 15-digit UELN number. On the AES site there is the option of “neither parent AES registered” for the following reasons:
1.) If the parents are registered with the AES, it will auto-fill the parents information if it is already in their database, so if they are not, then it will ask you to fill in the parent information if it is available
2.) If the parent is already approved by the AES or a recognized WBFSH registry that is approved with the AES it will make the foal/horse eligible for a certain color/level of passport.
3.) It provides an option for US horses who have never been registered with a breed registry but cannot prove pedigree to obtain a “HORSE IDENTIFICATION” passport that links a 15 digit UELN number with a microchip number.
The third option was crucial to the success of the microchip rule being passed at USHJA and USEF and was primarily directed at American breeders/owners who have been producing horses without registration. We also now have the USEF/USHJA rule that requires horses’ CP or breed papers/passport in order to compete in USHJA age restricted classes beginning Dec. 1, 2017. It is about changing the mindset of our culture. It has to start somewhere. When deciphering whether a breed registry is one of “those” registries it is important to look at whether the registry is issuing “full” papers, a “CP”, or “Horse ID” paper or passport. The word “registered” has been used as an all encompassing word, but sometimes there are many levels. Horses registered through the AES site in the US that do not have proof of pedigree or from unapproved parents will get a Horse Identification Passport. Nothing more.
This subject of horse identification and registration has been discussed in length with all the breed registries in joint meetings and they are willing to help and contribute. There are already other breed registries in the US issuing these “Horse ID” papers/passports. This permanent attachment of a horse ID and microchip number to the horse in conjunction with the new horse ID/microchipping rules is designed to lead into a system that minimizes fraud and create an infrastructure that supports American breeders, such as ones on this forum, to be able to track their horses throughout their entire life in sport and in breeding. Time to start connecting the dots. 
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Great to know! Thank you Summer. I knew AES was overseas but did not know it had reached to NA soil. Glad to see you bringing this idea into a solid form
In contrary to all the other registries especially the german ones the AES is a commercial Company. The others are organisations that are under german law not a Company.
They do not offer the member participation as in Setting up breedings rules, discussing approval rules etc.
AES is the national studbook for the UK
. Sadly, we in the UK have far too many studbooks but the AES is one of the more successful in recruiting good animals, particularly showjumpers.
We have a lot of studbooks in America too. A lot of the VDL stallions that we stock frozen are AES approved. The breeders like the options here. It’s a big country and not all inspections are close to them.
Thank you Summer for bringing AES to America.
Kathy
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Will there be AES stallion inspections in the USA?
so any horse that is registered with AES can be registered KWPN in the states?
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Have a look at www.angloeuropeanstudbook.co.uk which gives a comprehensive amount of information. How the horses are graded is notably transparent and very much based on function. The studbook is not tied to any particular location, such as Hannover or The Netherlands. It is a performance studbook, so it open to stock registered and graded with other WBFSH studbooks as well as other pure breeds that provide a useful outcross for producing sport horses (such as the Cleveland Bay and Irish Draught) as well those by AES bred and graded horses. I suspect that means a KWPN can be AES but not necessarily the other way round unless both AES parents are registered KWPN, or otherwise meet the Dutch criteria.
Send AES an email and see what they say.
Horses cannot be dual registered in two WBFSH stud books. You have to choose one. So a horse registered with AES cannot then be registered KWPN.
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Is that so? What of stallions registered with multiple studbooks?
Registered vs approved. Two different things. A horse can only hold one set of papers but can be approved with multiple stud books. Same goes for mares.
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Ah yes, see what you mean. Thank you.
I know a lot of stallion are aproved AES, but some stallions are aproved AES, but have pedigree that is not accepted for registration for KWPN in foalbook or reg A . for example, 3 or 4 generation wielkopolski polish bloodlines, or PRE andalusian bloodlines, you can only register as reg B.
you can registrate but you have foalbook , reg A and reg B, for KWPN
reg b, you not can go to kwpn show, and they never can get to reg A or foalbook, and only from that 2, foalbook or reg a, they can be registred in the main studbook and get predicates.
