Anhidrosis... here we go again :(

I hope the flavoring convinces him to eat it reliably!

I know these things are so hit or miss and what works for one doesn’t work for another, but the Sweatwerks hasn’t worked for us 100%. There’s been a few days he seemed to sweat some (and one random mid-morning half body sweat when it wasn’t even that hot) but definitely not at a normal level at the normal times. Once I get through the last of this bag I think we’re going to have to try something else.

This is my very first run in with anhidrosis, so I have been following this thread for a few weeks :eyes:

Guys guys! I don’t know what it was about today, but all the horses were sweating more than usual.

But guess who had a really GOOD amount of sweat almost everywhere? Anhidrosis mare! Woohoo!

I wonder if it’s anything I’m doing or a total coincidence???

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We poured a can of Guinness over a handful of senior grain in a feed pan and my gelding would slurp it up. I was told by his former owner that he would also happily drink Yuengling - Yuck!

You are definitely right, and that’s probably what I’ll be doing next year. Last year was the first time we have had a bout of anhidrosis. It came upon us really suddenly and he stopped sweating almost immediately. I thought this year, I would be prepared and I started One AC back in April, with the hopes that we would avoid it completely.

Then I figured I would try the Equiwinner patches, as so many people reported good results with them, and as they have a 100% money back guarantee, it was a reasonable thing to try.

We’re on Day 5 of the equiwinner patches without any positive results so far.

I am trying the Equiwinner patches on a senior non sweater. She has not sweat in over ten years. I can’t think of anything I haven’t tried on her but these patches.
She is not insulin resistant and when I called Equiwinner to ask if it was worth trying on her, they said yes. They said to stop all grain if possible, so I did. By day four she had sweat on her shoulders and neck. I am really hoping for more sweat. I will report back.

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That is awesome that the Equiwinner patches appear to be working for you. I did all 10 days and didn’t get any results.

The acupuncture appointment seems to have helped a little. My gelding is sweating a little. He had stopped sweating completely, but now his chest gets damp, sweat under his girth, a very little sweat under his bridle and some sweat in between the ole butt cheeks.

That is interesting that the Equiwinner rep recommended taking your horse off grain. My friend who moved to Florida was talking to a vet down there recently, and said they are recommending taking anhidrosis horses off grain too.

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I would def try pulling grain and / or switching to a soy and beet pulp free ration balancer. Could do hay pellets plus VMS of course I just find balancers easier

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I hate to jinx it, but this is the first summer my horse has been completely off of soy and beet pulp (he eats Timothy pellets with forage balancer and other supplements). It’s been pretty hot through all of July, a day here or there with a triple-digit heat index, and now it’s really settling in and this entire week has been getting worse. We’re on day two of 100+ heat index and it’s sticking around through the weekend at least. Knock on wood…my dude has kept sweating so far. And I mean, healthy horse sweat. I do add a tablespoon of salt to each feeding and he gets double dose of One AC (2 scoops AM and PM) while it’s so hot/humid, but that’s always been done in summers past and he still stopped sweating usually at some point in July.

Not only is he sweating, he’s nowhere near as itchy this summer as he has been in past years. He used to gnaw himself bloody and rub incessantly on anything he could. He still rubs now and then, but like a normal horse does, not like he’s got the mad itch. He seems much less bothered by insects, etc.

No idea if it’s all related to his all forage diet, but it sure could be.

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That’s awesome!

My boy is still doing good too! And it’s been very hot this summer too. I mean it’s always hot here, but it’s been extra bad this year. Knock on wood, he’s been making very good choices (like utilizing the barn fans and shade trees) so lately I haven’t been locking him in the stall during the worst part of the day. Fingers crossed that behavior continues.

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This is from the Equiwinner site:

Equiwinner will work on all horses as described, but overfeeding may interfere with the healing process or results may not last as long as expected. Basic good nutrition combined with exercise is the foundation for good health. Overfeeding relative to the amount of exercise is the most common mistake that horse owners make. Even a small excess of food intake relative to the work being done results in an increase in the blood sugar level. It is not generally realized that excess blood sugar (glucose) can completely unbalance the electrolytes, making any treatment more difficult.

Yay for making good choices! I think my dude has been doing this as well when the heat is really, really bad. I’ve noticed poop in the stall with the fan. I put piles of hay in there today to encourage him and his girlfriend to avail themselves of the lavish amenities. They usually stand in the same stall anyway.

I rode this morning and while it was “cooler” than it’ll be for the rest of the day (and most of the night), it was still pretty heinous. My guy is a noisy breather when the heat and humidity reach astronomical levels, and he was doing a little of that today. He had plenty of sweat though. I just hope it continues. I’m not going to ride him again until this heat wave ends. Just baths and (non-grain) treats from now on until this foolishness is over.

Stay cool, everyone! Praying for sweaty horses!

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My 25 year old is doing very well, knock on wood. He’s drinking plenty of water, has quality manure, has a good appetite, and is bright-eyed and engaged.

I did the ten days of Equiwinner patches a couple of weeks ago, along with Platinum Refresh, One AC (already had on hand), and then added in True Sweat – I’ve been gradually segueing over from the PR to TS (similar ingredients in several respects, much smaller serving size – PR serving is large, and apparently not very tasty). I’m also feeding a little citrus Stress Dex (the only flavored electrolyte available at my local TSC).

I also purchased a Portacool (the model 510 single stall size), and a waterproof, sealed outdoor fan designed for barn use plus its optional six nozzle misting system, along with an inexpensive six nozzle linear misting system from Lowes.

In total, the equipment cost $840 plus tax – the fan was on sale, the Lowes system was only $20, and I could’ve saved $100 ordering the Portacool from Lowes and then waiting for a shipment, but decided that I’d rather pick up one in stock at my local Tractor Supply even though it was list price.

I think the equipment was money well spent. Today, it’s 102 in the shade in my shedrow barn (insulated roof, large shade trees at either end) with a heat index several degrees higher. The real temperature is predicted to also be several degrees higher in the next few days, and I was concerned about whether this system was adequate.

I just checked – with the Portacool on high, and the fan and misters all going, the temperature in the stall was immediately mid 90s, and the thermometer all the way down to 82 degrees within a minute or two. I was amazed. My horse is slightly damp, as though he’s been in a light drizzle, but not wet to the skin. I turn the misting off now and then (turn fan misting initially on around noon or 1, and the linear misting on around 3 or 4, depending upon the temp), so that he gets a break. The Portacool stays on from roughly 11 in the morning until after 8 at night, when he’s in the controlled environment of his stall. I leave the fan on later into the evening, to help dry the stall out from all the misting.

I don’t have to hose him off several times a day anymore but, when I do, he shows lots of latherin, and he’s not panting. Fingers crossed that he continues to do well as the temp goes even higher. To me, the especially hard part is that it doesn’t cool off much in the evening.

The Portacool does have to be refilled with water a few times during the day, and there have been some issues with it (customer service has been stellar). We’ve had to soak the misting nozzles in a vinegar solution to keep them operating their best, plus we bought the optional hard water treatment sticks for the Portacool.

It’s been an expense with a lot of trial and error, but we have a system that’s working well now, and I can schedule activities around managing it. The supplements have been worthwhile; I plan to simplify down to just the True Sweat, One AC, and Stress Dex (he prefers the latter added to his small meals, instead of drinking treated water). I’m not sorry I got the Equiwinner patches, either. I’ve been able to cut his Guinness Extra Stout down all the way to just a splash added to his food morning and evening, too, as I’ve been reducing the amount of Refresh.

I’m very hopeful that we can get through the next couple of weeks. What we really need, sad to say, is for a hurricane somewhere that then causes a tropical storm to reach us.

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I own a Friesian who has stopped sweating as soon as the warmer months hit …what was suggested to me was using Equine Total Golds Anhidrosis formula (it’s a fish& soy oil combo) I used it for a few months and didn’t see much improvement-however I switched him to KER’s EO3 oil and he seems to be doing better with that.

I haven’t read all the replies, but there is a Facebook group for Anhidrosis. People swear by removing all grain and alfalfa. Also increasing Vitamin E. I have my guy on Vitamin E for other reasons, but have not removed grain/alfalfa (hard hard keeper) and I have had issues with sweating, but in my case, treating PPID has seemed to help. Life Data Labs has Sweat Formula and that seemed to help my guy some before we had the cushings diagnosis.

What is interesting to me is all 3 of my anhidrosis horses over the years were very hard keepers on lots of senior feed and alfalfa.

When my third horse stopped sweating this summer, it was not lost on me that all three horses were being fed similarly.

However, I’d like to ask the powers that be how TF do you keep weight on an older hard keeper without access to hard feed or alfalfa. One of my anhidrosis horses was a mid 30s TB with no chewing surfaces left. There is no way I could have gotten enough calories into him with grass forage products alone, not even with added fat.

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I’ve wondered the same thing. I have a 28 year old OTTB who has never been on a diet his whole life. He’s a very picky eater to begin with. I moved to a barn in March of 2021 that feed only grass hay. My guy lost 100 lbs. So I provide my own alfalfa in addition to the barn hay. I can’t imagine not feeing grain along with that. However, literally everyone that removes grain/alfalfa seems to always have success with sweating. It’s crazy!

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Huh. That’s interesting. This is the first summer in about four years that my horse hasn’t stopped sweating, and in fact has been sweating quite normally/well. We have had several super hot days in a row with the heat index reaching over 100 (114 one day) with horrible humidity. He was no worse for wear from it, sweating like he’s supposed to. I’ve wondered if removing him from soy has helped, but I’ve also got him on increased Vitamin E and I’ve cut all alfalfa (except the tiny amount in two of his supplements). Not only is he sweating this summer, he’s breathing easier and isn’t rubbing and chewing himself hairless/raw. He’s much happier and healthier from what I can see. I just feed him so many things that it’s hard to tell what’s doing what. I’m definitely afraid to cut anything out!

My guy is not a hard-keeper, but he needs plenty of forage to keep stay in good weight. He has free access to a pasture with enough grass to keep him and his pasture mate busy, but not to keep them fat. So, they get ample amounts of timothy/orchard twice a day. Mine also gets soaked timothy pellets with his supplements. For fat, he gets Omega Horseshine (2 cups a day) and CocoSun oil (about 4 oz a day). He’s also getting the CocoSun granular until it runs out. That’s one thing I’ll allow to fall by the wayside as it’s redundant. I’ll make up for it with more hay or hay pellets.

I wish they made timothy hay cubes without alfalfa. I mean, I think Triple Crown does, but Standlee doesn’t. They make the pure timothy pellets, I wonder why they can’t do cubes?

Anyway, interesting about the additional E and eliminating alfalfa. I believe my dude does better with pretty much nothing in the legume family in his diet. He’s fine with grasses, oils, and seeds. No grains. No legumes.

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I know Ontario Dehy and Triple Crown both do.

I swear Standlee used to about 10 years ago. Dumor also used to as well, but it seems like they only package them for small animals these days ($$$).

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I think you’re right. I thought I remembered feeding them.

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I vaguely remember them being really hard to soften, even with hot water. Super dense bricks. Maybe that’s why there are less companies marketing them for horses.

Although I was buying either the TC or OD Tim cubes up until a few years ago and don’t remember anything remarkable with them. I can’t remember which brand, I probably switched back and forth depending on price.