Animal Communicator, Lidia Hiby

[LaurieB]

[QUOTE=Guilherme;8378916]
No, because any body can talk to the runner and get an answer. But what if you were ONLY one could could get the answer. That changes the things a bit, what?

Remember, too, that not only do you get the answer about one horse that horse can tell you about all the other horses. You get all the horse gossip “dirt.” That would be pure gold to the sporting man or woman!!!

G.[/QUOTE]

I am really not understanding your point.

I have a horse entered to run on Sunday. Does he know whether or not he’s going to win the race? No, of course not. How could he? He’s sitting in a stall in Lexington. He will be running on a track in Louisville that he’s never seen. He doesn’t know who his competition is and he’s never met them. He doesn’t know what surface he’s running on. He doesn’t know the distance of the race.

Even if I were able to “talk” to him and supply that information, I’d imagine that the best answer he would be able to give me is “I will try.”

The fact that horses are unable to predict the future does not in any way disprove the notion that some people might have the skills to be able to communicate with them.

[SendenHorse]

ACs aren’t psychics, so they can’t tell the future (some can, not all). The future events may change based on new variables, a reading is just a snapshot of the events at that time (ie- someone maybe on the way to a divorce, but reconcile based on something that happens the next day, at the time of the reading the suggestion is divorce)

They don’t have to be in the same location to read animals or people, I’ve fet impressions of a situation happening and not been actually there. I’ve read things from afar, though I am not an AC per say.

The dialog isn’t like we think-- lots of times there are pictures/images.

Some ACS work more in a Q&A format, some go with it more and see what the animals “bring up” first.

I have used ACs for vet related issues, but never as a substitute.

I’ve had ACs pick up different locations of issues in the horse, again, it’s not like a vet exam where it’s a linear dialog. they were all right in some aspect, again each day is new and the reading is what hurts that horse THEN.

I have had saddle fit issues present as “horse doesn’t feel like he can turn”, and I had to work backwards to see that it was the saddle. the owner does have to interpret things.

Since I am an intuitive, I know this is real. However, not all ACs work for me, and not all are worth the $.

[Kwill]

No point in arguing about it, since it can’t be measured with scientific methods (or even demonstrated under controlled conditions!) and it comes down to people’s beliefs, which can’t really be changed. It’s harmless and makes people happy.

I just have to say, though, how can they not be “psychics”? Isn’t that what we are talking about here, some kind of mind reading? Why can’t the psychics read people’s minds? How are we different than an animal, because we speak? So do they … are you saying you believe that animals communicate telepathically, and people can read those images, but humans can’t do it with themselves? Why not? And if you are an animal psychic, it would seem to me that you would be the best rider in the world, since you could communicate directly with the horse…or is it just a one way conduit?

My problem is every single instance of this “phenomenon” is described differently. Over the phone, in person, animals that have passed away, etc. It doesn’t have any consistency. If it exists, it can be described and shown under controlled conditions. If you can talk to a horse, tell him to go to the other end of the stall and whinny. Then I would start to believe you.

[Coanteen]

[QUOTE=Heinz 57;8379296]
Please, do tell me where the LF hock is located? :lol: seriously though, that’s not how my experience worked.[/QUOTE]

Clearly that’s horsie being confused.

Really though, why not get several opinions? Since you said it’s cheap and at the least there’s an entertainment factor, imagine how much more entertaining it would be to compare them!

Oh, totally get at least one that can tell the future! Seden says on page 3 that not all can - get one that can, so the client will also know whether the lameness will be solved eventually or not.

[LaurieB]

[QUOTE=Kwill;8379639]

If it exists, it can be described and shown under controlled conditions. If you can talk to a horse, tell him to go to the other end of the stall and whinny. Then I would start to believe you.[/QUOTE]

Funny you should say that because the first time I used an AC I had specific things I wanted to “discuss” with my horse–mostly relating to showing and how she needed to learn to focus on me. That was not at all how the “conversation” went. :lol:

As soon as Tess realized someone was “listening” to her, she immediately had a list of demands. “I’m in a new stall, I liked my old stall better” (My barn had just moved.) “I used to have 2 water buckets and now I only have 1” (still getting settled in the new barn.) “I used to get red apples, I like them better than the yellow ones LaurieB brings me now” (the yellow apples were on sale, so sue me. :lol: )

The thing that was fascinating to me was how specific the observations were–and that they were all correct. Not only that, but they referred to things that I wasn’t even thinking about at all at the time–because I had the delusional idea that we were going to be discussing Tess’s show career.

So it’s not like I got to choose which answers I was going to get. Much like in “real life” Tess just assumed that she was in control of the dialogue we were having.

At the end, I asked the AC to ask Tess (again because the barn had just moved and merged with another and lots of things were still up in the air) which horse or horses she would like to be turned out with. The AC told me that she got a picture of a very specific bay mare. She described the mare in great detail–and although I knew all the horses in the barn I did not recognize who she was.

The next day, my very skeptical trainer asked how the session had gone. When I got to the end and described the bay mare that Tess wanted to be turned out with, my trainer suddenly went silent and kind of pale. “Omg,” she said, “You wouldn’t know who that mare is, but Tess described her mother.”

[SendenHorse]

Psychic- ability to forecast the future
Medium- ability to connect with dead spirits (animals, human)
Intuitive- ability to read a person or animal spirituality

No, an AC reading may not be psychic, some are some are not. And as I said, things can change so the prediction may be altered after the reading- that doesn’t make it wrong or inaccurate. It’s not “A will happen, then B, then C”. I’ve had ACs say that an injury is minor, but never a date that will heal.

However, one horse said “he liked his birthday cake”-- in fact yes the horse had a birthday cake the day before and communicated past events.

People are disappointed when there are no “sure-bets” in intuition either! Dang!

I’ve asked about a future event – all I get is “it will happen” but not what/when.

[Heinz_57]

[QUOTE=Coanteen;8379652]
Clearly that’s horsie being confused.

Really though, why not get several opinions? Since you said it’s cheap and at the least there’s an entertainment factor, imagine how much more entertaining it would be to compare them!

Oh, totally get at least one that can tell the future! Seden says on page 3 that not all can - get one that can, so the client will also know whether the lameness will be solved eventually or not.[/QUOTE]

Please stop mocking me.

In MY EXPERIENCE, this particular horse showed her his right shoulder area and said that it was sore. Not long after that, my chiropractor, who had no knowledge of my talk with the AC, pinpointed the right shoulder where it joins into the neck as a trouble area that needed significant work.

That is one example of the information provided to me by the person I recommended. She has explained that the horses show her pictures, essentially, and she tries her best to interpret them. I do not believe the horse says “hey, my SI joint hurts, tell the human” or the “LF hock”, or whatever you suggested.

Same horse also told her I had gotten another horse recently, and that he was worried I was going to replace/retire him. I had, in fact, gotten a new horse - a 2 year old, with the intention of it being his “replacement” because I knew I would probably have to retire him in the next few years. She also communicated with a few other horses of mine, NONE of which I asked about. Described them by sex, color, and markings, very specifically.

It is relatively inexpensive. Why don’t I get several? Because it is far too exhausting for me to sit on the phone for three or four hours, taking notes (or recording and transcribing calls), just to try and prove to a bunch of internet strangers with preconceived notions that it is true. You won’t believe, and you don’t have to - it has no effect on the outcome of my visit. If you’d like to pay for the additional calls and buy me lunch for my time, I’d be happy to humor you.

I am interested to see how the horses react this time, I was not with them for the last call but I will be home tomorrow.

[Coanteen]

I assume the client can sit by the phone? If the client’s paying, why can’t they get the entertainment value?

So… the horse can only send vague pictures about its pain that the AC then interprets instead of being able to communicate “my leg hurts here when I do this”.
But the horse can also precisely describe other horses, and understand (and worry about) concepts such as being replaced with your new horse. Concepts much, much more complex, and requiring an understanding of future-sense, than “pain.here.”

[Heinz_57]

Nope. That was just a brief summary of a few things we talked about. I had referred to the new horse as his replacement quite often, and he did give more detail about the shoulder soreness than just ‘pain.here’ as you say. I would be happy to report back again tomorrow… I imagine I can probably transcribe the conversation as it occurs. Not that it will change your mind!

[The_Crone_of_Cottonmouth_Count]

What would be more useful than engaging the horse in psychic communication would be if the AC could talk to the actual bacteria or viruses or funguses or parasites that are responsible for the mayhem and get them to cut it the heck out.

[EcstaticLady]

This isn’t the first thread about ACs; probably won’t be the last either. HOWEVER, those that don’t believe and are told in the OP that your mocking, judging and ridiculing isn’t wanted or needed…should respect that and keep away from the thread!

That being said, I used an AC once, about 8 years ago. She didn’t know my horse and didn’t ask for anything other than her name and age. She gave me very specific information that was pretty accurate. The most amazing thing tho was she told me Lady didn’t like to race. I bought her after being told she had never raced (didn’t care, didn’t matter one way or another). After our session I did some research, she raced 3x. (AC did not know her registered name.)

I’m thinking about trying it again, just for the entertainment value, of course.

[Coanteen]

[QUOTE=Heinz 57;8379865]
I imagine I can probably transcribe the conversation as it occurs. Not that it will change your mind![/QUOTE]

Oh goodness no, don’t trouble yourself to transcribe! It really won’t.

[sid]

[QUOTE=The Crone of Cottonmouth County;8379888]
What would be more useful than engaging the horse in psychic communication would be if the AC could talk to the actual bacteria or viruses or funguses or parasites that are responsible for the mayhem and get them to cut it the heck out.[/QUOTE]

:lol::lol::lol:

[crimsonsky]

late to the game to post here but OP, i did the exact same thing. have a mare that has lameness issues that were not clear no matter what diagnostics were done and what treatments attempted. finally had an AC “talk” to the mare and guess what - the mare’s feedback was helpful and instead of giving up on making her better, we’ve made real progress.

do i think this would be the case for anyone or any situation? certainly not. but it worked for me. i went into it thinking “eh if i lose $25 that’s still less than half the cost of a vet call”.

[Miss_Motivation]

We have used Lidia Hiby and enjoyed the experience. It was relatively inexpensive entertainment and fun to think about what our animals would ‘say.’

She communicated with a number of different animals in one stop and had both specific and accurate things to say, and some that were not as ‘right.’

If you need an urgent medical diagnosis, call the vet. If you are curious, try the AC experience and talk to the communicator about what they do and how they do it. They may have some insight that, one way or another, adds a positive dimension to your relationship with your animal.

[jennywho]

I met Lydia years ago. She came to the barn after finding a fellow boarders missing cat via phone. She was eerily spot on and like LaurieBs experience, my mare dictated the conversation. At one point she said I know (jennywho) wants to get me a new blanket, either red or black, but I want burgundy. Which was 100% accurate, she got burgundy. The one thing I thought was wrong was that mare said she knew I was thinking about selling her and it was okay. A few months later I realized that I had presented her in a marketing class at horse fair where I pretended to try to sell her.

I went into my meeting with Lydia thinking it was a joke and came out a believer.

[wireweiners]

Why would a horse care about the color of its blanket. Aren’t they color blind like dogs? Plus, she could have told you the horse wanted any color, you wouldn’t know if she was right or wrong. That sort of thing doesn’t impresse

[PrimoAmor]

I used an AC once, mostly for fun but it turned out quite interesting. I used Joan Ranquet, she is really well known in the Northwest, has had some high profile cases covered by the news. A couple years ago she was able to locate a missing horse that had fallen down a raveen. I’m not sure how she could have done that by ‘reading the owners emotions’.

[Sunflower]

I don’t see why people who are not convinced of the merit of using an AC have to turn up in the thread to share this… when this is not the point of the thread. If AC is not your thing-- fine. I do not turn up in threads about horse chiropractors screaming “pseudo-science”. Just because I do not see merit in it does not mean that everyone who does needs to know my view ( or would even care). If someone wants to spend their time and money on an AC or a chiropractor, their call.

These are hardly the silliest or most expensive ways people spend money on horses.

[Guilherme]

Folks are free to believe what they wish. They are free to spend their money as they wish. They are not free to tell others to hush up if they opine that the procedure being discussed is whole cloth fraud.

Show me the science that validates this practice and I’ll consider it. Until then, IMO, there is no “there” there.

G.