Another Heraldik son and a Trakehner-approved TB stallion by Cozzene

[Peregrine_Farm]

Just browsing the Mariposa Sport Horses web-site and came across two youngish stallions that I had not heard of before. One is Hyperion (not the 1930s edition), a 10-year old Heraldik son (approved Hanoverian) out of a Voltaire mare with lines to Grannus and Furioso II. The second is Ratibor, a nice looking, 8-year old, full-Tb with a nice pedigree for eventing – 4x4 to Sir Gaylord and a son of Cozzene, approved Trakehner and Westphalian.

http://www.mariposasporthorses.com/Hyperion.htm

http://www.pedigreequery.com/ratibor
http://www.mariposasporthorses.com/Ratibor.htm

Anyone know anything about these boys? Are they being used much?

Thanks

[mbp]

http://www.trakehners-international.com/handorf_app10_17.html

I don’t know anything about either, but here is a link to some additional info on Ratbor. You might want to revise the topic header to get better input (maybe something like, Heraldik Son Hyperion & Trak ApprovedCozenne Son Ratibor xx?

You’ve probably seen it but there’s also a short YouTube clip for Ratibor.

[Peregrine_Farm]

[QUOTE=mbp;6011037]
http://www.trakehners-international.com/handorf_app10_17.html

I don’t know anything about either, but here is a link to some additional info on Ratbor. You might want to revise the topic header to get better input (maybe something like, Heraldik Son Hyperion & Trak ApprovedCozenne Son Ratibor xx?

You’ve probably seen it but there’s also a short YouTube clip for Ratibor.[/QUOTE]

Thanks - I edited the title as you suggested. I have seen the YouTube clip – would have like to have seen more of the trot and the free jump; not a ton to go by.

Thanks for posting to the Trakehner website – I had located that as well. Looks like he was approved last year – one of only four approvals out of 21 candidates. Perhaps this is old news, but it is interesting that of the four approved, 2 were full Tbs and one was a purebred Arabian.

[Perfect_Pony]

Very cool. I tried a Cozzene son many years ago, one of the coolest horses I have ridden, regretted not buying him for a long time (he was 12 or so at the time I think, and gray, still in hindsight a mistake). Big, big boned, lovely gaits, great jump, and super fun.

[cyriz_s_mom]

I’m new to working with the ATA as Sea Accounts was just approved a month ago, but he is the only TB currently licensed by the ATA.

Is there a Canadian Trakehner Association or is Ratibor approved in Germany?

If in Germany, is ATA like some of the other European registries that reciprocate?

Thanks…just trying to educate myself with how the Trakehners work.

[EquusMagnificus]

There is a Canadian Trakehner association. :yes:

http://www.cantrak.on.ca/

[omare]

I will be interested to see how Ratibor breeds as he has a maternal brother in the USA that stood at the former Md Stallion station --St Averil. (I hope St Averil does not disappear before then!)

[Peregrine_Farm]

Based upon what I can find on the internet, Ratibor was approved in Germany in the spring of 2010 at Munster-Handorf. The Trakehners-International website lists his owner as Natalia Timoshenko, a Ukranian. That is the same name of the wife of Ukraine’s ambassador to the Netherlands – don’t know if it is the same person or not. Ain’t the internet wonderful?

It seems pretty clear that he is overseas somewhere, and being brokered frozen here in North America.

[PonyGal08]

[QUOTE=cyriz’s mom;6011374]
I’m new to working with the ATA as Sea Accounts was just approved a month ago, but he is the only TB currently licensed by the ATA.

Is there a Canadian Trakehner Association or is Ratibor approved in Germany?

If in Germany, is ATA like some of the other European registries that reciprocate?

Thanks…just trying to educate myself with how the Trakehners work.[/QUOTE]

Ratibor was sent to Germany.

[anglotrak]

I think Sea Accounts is the only ATA approved TB stallion. We have waited a long time for another one!

[anglotrak]

There are some areas of reciprocity, but I am not familiar with which ones. The ATA registration committee could tell you that one. I think it is related to the performance of either the horse or his offspring.

[cyriz_s_mom]

Thanks for assisting my education everyone!!!

Ratibor is a lovely type.

I do know that the Verband approved a 3 y.o. TB this year…a Lauries Crusader son!

[aquafarms]

Omare,
I was planning on using St Averil this year myself but looks like he was exported.

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332594

[omare]

That is a shame–I know they were shipping them back and forth between hemispheres and they got caught in one of those outbreaks so were required to stay in quarentine and was not used for breeding for one season–I did not realize he was eventually left there.

[Elles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i8Pn9XiKvg
http://www.gestuetligges.com/cms/front_content.php?client=1&lang=1&idcat=6&idart=491

[Peregrine_Farm]

I dug a little deeper and was able to find some video on Hyperion. Apparently there were discussions about selling him to a young rider from Hong Kong for the 2010 Asian games. There is a letter from her mother posted on the internet soliciting donations to buy the horse, which contains links to otherwise non-searchable YouTube videos of the stallion doing dressage, stadium, and a hunter-derby type cross-country schooling session with the young rider: http://www.hkef.org/cgi-bin/display/media_corner_display.cgi?content=271 The video links are at the bottom of the letter.

The letter is interesting itself for a number of reasons (just read it); also interesting is the cross-country schooling facility in the videos (which presumably is in Germany), which packs a variety of jumps into a small-ish set of adjoining arenas. It looks like it may even be in an urban area.