Anxiety pee'er is now peeing in the house whenever

Since my old dog passed away my little dog has taken to anxiety peeing in the house.

Everyone says im not supposed to punish her for it, just take her outside

This is not working. my house is now saturated with pee smell, I try so hard to clean it all up, but its not working

This morning she just squatted and peed in the hallway with me there. She has been peeing in the house middle of the night too. I doesnt seem to matter anymore if im there or not

grr! im at my wits end with her.

I have to work. Cant be there watching her 24/7

because I work 9-10 hours a day, crating her is just too much

she has a doggie door she can go out 24/7 and she poo’s outside. but she pees inside

I cant go on this way much longer. im afraid I may have to put her down

she is only 4 years old

any advise?

I tried all weekend, shutting her out in her pen by closing the doggie door, and praising her when she did pee outside

ive ordered a Bissel steam cleaner with some stuff that is supposed to clean up pee - sigh

After this mornings hallway pee, im discouraged

first choice for me: clicker train her or begin again with the clicker.

second choice, choose a spot, put an ex pen around it, add a potty pad or some other absorbent material, let her (or encourage her) to pee there. Then either cut that surface down by actually cutting it smaller, or folding it, till it is tiny and take that outside to encourage her to pee there. OR place the bigger surface outside once she has peed on it at least twice (for scent) and see if that does not encourage her to go outside.

Or, just let her go in the ex-pen. I have a good friend who had taught her last 2 Shelties to use potty pads in an expen in her basement. In poor weather (rain/snow/sleet), she doesn’t have to take the dog outside. Very handy also when she travels as the potty pad is portable. I wish now I had taught my tiny Papillon to use these.

PS. Praise is likely not enough incentive for her to work at doing what you want, go out with her, mark the pee with a word or clicker and offer a treat outside.

I might rule out a UTI before doing anything else. It could be just anxiety, but you’ll be fighting a losing battle if it’s not.

yep, had her to the vet twice.

Did full blood work, and urine tests

Physically, she has nothing wrong with her…

Why not go back to the crate? My dogs were crated 9hrs/day and survived… I work F/T and live alone; dogs in my house HAVE to be able to hold it for 9-10hrs. They can, and do.

I would crate or significantly reduce her area to be in - e.g. one room like a bathroom. And I would go back to house training like she is a puppy – do not give her the entire house.

But, maybe you can talk to the vet about the anxiety? Maybe she needs to be medicated for anxiety? Also, is it possible there is spay incontinence added to the mix? Maybe worth a trial of Proin if she is spayed.

Other options - indoor/outdoor kennel during the day? Dog day care?

I feel your pain. Our yorkie mix will do this for a few weeks here and there, and we’ve never been able to figure out the pattern (aside from the obvious, like rainy days or the yard needs mowing). It seems like whenever we get desperate enough to talk about crating her, she hears us and stops doing it for a while. I’ll be listening to this conversation in the hope we can find some answers, too.

okay, back to puppy training. I got a pen to reduce her space, and I put it around the doggie door, so she can still use it. She will not be left alone with the full run of the house anymore.

crossing my fingers.

It will shred me to have to euth her over this :cry:

$300 later, I ordered - not to mention vet bill, pray this works

carpet steam cleaner
thunder shirt
dog pen
and this “Dogxiety” stuff
https://www.elevaterecovery.com/products/dogxiety-dog-separation-anxiety-supplement-valerian-root-ashwaganda-l-theanine-chamomile-gaba

Get mad at the pee, not the dog. Make a thirty second show about how much you hate pee and do not involve the dog.

I adopted a male GSD with this problem. Once he realized that I hated pee he would check his weenie when he was upset and make sure to not pee.

Gosh, euthanasia is strong for a problem like this. The dog is perfectly healthy, and because she’s an anxiety pee-er you’re going to kill her? You can’t take it back once it’s done.

Crate her and get a dog walker to let her out in the middle of the day. Or put a diaper on her. Either way, get her re-housebroken. Start over like she was a new puppy. And consider if you’re playing a part in her anxiety and if she needs to get put on meds.

Sigh - have you really read any of my posts?

I guess it easy to judge when your not living it. when your house is saturated with so much pee, and its getting worse, the smell is toxic, and there is nothing you can do about it… no one can live that way…

Even trying my best to clean it up everytime (with this enzyme stuff) she has been peeing in the house 2-3 times a day for the past 4 months. With no end in sight.

Ive never had a dog do this before. She has access to the outside 24/7. She poos outside just fine. So, she knows how to get outside. Hiring someone to come in is ridiculous.

I cant walk barefoot in my house anymore. I can no longer have anyone over… IMO people who can live in such soiled conditions have a screw loose…

Believe me, Im trying everything. Which is why I came here for help. Euth will be the last resort, and I assure you, I will not be happy about it…

And people who aren’t willing to crate their dog when facing this sort of problem perhaps deserve to live in pee. (Said tongue firmly in cheek.)

I’ve dealt with rescue dogs with all sorts of issues, including many with this exact problem. When they were alone in the house, they were crated, period, no ifs, ands or buts; this included the 16 years I was employed in a normal office job and had regular-to-long work hours plus a long commute. For small dogs with smaller bladders, the crate was big enough for a bed, a water dish and a puppy pee pad. For larger ones who could easily hold it for 9+ hours, just the bed and water. Why wouldn’t you want to take advantage of the dog’s natural disinclination to soil her/his bed?

At a minimum, to save your house, confine her to an easily cleaned room, such as a bathroom. But the crating will work better to modify the behavior.

Of course, we’d all like our dogs to have full freedom to hang around the house as they would like while we’re away. But you’re not there right now. That doesn’t mean you can’t get there (again), but you have to just embrace that at this point in time, that’s not an option. Unless you like living in pee, or have fallen madly in love with your Bissell and just want to play with that sucker all the time.

Have you talked to your vet about anxiety, since you mentioned anxiety peeing? You’ve mentioned some OTC products to address that, but in some dogs you need a proper prescription medication. In two of my dogs, an Rx fixed the problem within 24-48 hours. Seriously, a couple of pills tossed down their throats and the nervous peeing was gone. Another memorable one required an Rx plus some very specific behavior modification and self-soothing training, but within a couple of months, again, zero anxiety pees.

You also might consider having an actual behaviorist in to evaluate her and give you some more tools in your kit to deal with her. It seems like a straightforward problem, but oftentimes it is not at all. There could be any combination of as-yet-undiscovered physical problems (yep, even with a clean bill of health from one or more vet visits), mental problems/anxiety, unidentified environmental issues (e.g., did something scare her at some point when she peed outside alone?), and on and on and on. If you can locate a DVM behaviorist who will do an intensive physical workup as well as addressing behavior cause and modification, that would be ideal, but those people can be hard to find.

Good luck! I am sympathetic to your plight, and highly recommend at least starting with the crating and work from there. Your story sounds an awful lot like something happened to make independent outdoor peeing stressful and so your dog is avoiding it.

If you decide to euth, please reach out to rescues or, hell, PM me here. There are people who are very willing to work with this sort of problem and who have had great success fixing it. :yes:

[QUOTE=coloredhorse;8811000]
aren’t willing to crate[/QUOTE]

huh? did you read that I just spent $100 on a pen ($300 total on other stuff, not including vet bills) that I can place around the doggie door for her. Reducing her space to 4x6 for now, reducing more if necessary…

again please read my posts? this all started after my elderly dog passed away (Im still grieving over) about 4 months ago…

Yes, I did, and had her tested for everything under the sun… again, please read my posts. please note the list of the new stuff im going to try. If that doesnt work, I will ask my vet about perhaps some sort of prescription

perhaps others have more experience than me at this… which is why I came here for help on this issue. and now, I have a handful of stuff that Im going to try now.

[QUOTE=coloredhorse;8811000]deserves to live in pee[/QUOTE] saying this is just a horrible thing to say to someone who is trying, and asking for help…

this has been a horrible experience for me. Ive never had a dog do this before. Especially at this critical time for me. I recently had spinal fusion surgery because of a broken L4 vertebra. Taking care of this farm, horses, and peeing dog is excruciating to say the least.

My friends keep telling me I have to euth her if it doesnt resolve. This is something that I will do anything to avoid, but, I have to ask myself if they are right??? Im at my wits end with this, and didnt know what else to do. which is why I finally came here for advise.

PS: NOTE… with all the new stuff im trying (thanks to the helpful people here) we had a good day yesterday. Not one mess, and she peed outside. I even crawled through the doggie door with her several times (which was NOT easy due to the spinal surgery) and encouraged her to pee, when she did, I lavished praise on her… so, thank you for the ideas. We have had the first pee free day in months!

[QUOTE=Jumpin_Horses;8810645]
okay, back to puppy training. I got a pen to reduce her space, and I put it around the doggie door, so she can still use it. She will not be left alone with the full run of the house anymore.

crossing my fingers.

It will shred me to have to euth her over this :cry:

$300 later, I ordered - not to mention vet bill, pray this works

carpet steam cleaner
thunder shirt
dog pen
and this “Dogxiety” stuff
https://www.elevaterecovery.com/products/dogxiety-dog-separation-anxiety-supplement-valerian-root-ashwaganda-l-theanine-chamomile-gaba[/QUOTE]

Ok, this is a good start, but “Dogxiety” supplement is not the same as treating for real anxiety. Is your vet unwilling to prescribe Prozac or another anti-anxiety medication to try? Or a trial of Proin for spay incontinence to see if it helps?

Believe me, a lot of us DO understand what you are going through. It may seem like you’ve tried everything but I think there are a lot of other options still to consider - particularly pharmaceutical ones.

[QUOTE=Jumpin_Horses;8809692]

This morning she just squatted and peed in the hallway with me there. She has been peeing in the house middle of the night too. I doesnt seem to matter anymore if im there or not

any advise?[/QUOTE]

I think somewhere along the line, you had a failure in housetraining. I am guessing that when your now deceased dog urinated outside, she followed suit. The urinating in the house at night isn’t consistent with anxiety/submissive urination.

I don’t know if there’s a doggy daycare she could spend some time at which could help you with retraining. Other option would be to consider litterbox training, which I find preferrable to pee pads.