Any reason not to feed my own mixed feed?

My husband had feed mixed at our local mill for his personal horses. Oats, corn, BOSS, soybean meal and a small amount of molasses, all rolled. They are top dressed with flax. Hay is grass hay, free choice. No metabolic or other health concerns.

I ran ran his mix through my.feedxl.com and it looks like it ticks all the nutrient boxes.

Just wondering if there’s any reason I shouldn’t put my horses on it as well.

DH went this route because his young horse isn’t gaining/maintaining how he’d like her to be on 10lbs/daily of Kalm Ultra and is hoping a less processed feed will be more agreeable to her. I’m skeptical.

eta: the feed he mixed is 14% protein, 13% fat, 15% fiber.

Personally, my concerns would include:

Vits/mins-- is this feed fortified in any way? Specifically, Ca:P is going to be way out of wack with oats, corn, BOSS, soy, and flax. I’m assuming your grass hay addressed that in FeedXL, but have you actually tested your hay? Grass hay can sometimes be inverted, too. Plus, grass hay can be notoriously low in vitamins and trace minerals. If it were me, I’d top dress with a general vit/min supplement if it is not fortified in any way.

NSC-- it’s going to be through the roof with that mix. Unless your horses are doing a lot of work, all of those sugars/starches aren’t necessary.

I agree with your husband that less processed feed products can sometimes benefit horses (I have a pet theory that wheat mids just don’t agree with some animals). But this is not a mix I’d specifically feed my horses. I tend to prefer ingredients with higher fiber and fat. For example, I usually avoid corn and molasses and use more alfalfa/beet pulp/oil.

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Nothing wrong with feeding that at all. Add minerals of your choice. Very common to feed years ago before all these specialty feeds came around.

We didn’t see the metabolic issues like we do today but people didn’t feed near the volume of feeds they do now either.

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The the corn wasn’t really on my radar as a positive, in fact I tried to steer him away from it… but as he wants his horse to gain weight he felt corn was a good choice. He specifically wasn’t interested in corn OIL because he wanted the fiber and nutrients in the corn kernel. The molasses is quite minimal, not sure if it’s worth it. It makes up like .04% of one pound.

Our hay hasn’t been tested yet. We will be top dressing with probably “grass assist” by tribute.

As for NSC… I don’t really know much about it other than high = bad. Dh’s horses are older/pasture puffs and one young horse that he’s trying to put some weight on in a reasonable way. She was previously on a generic 10% pellet at 16lbs a day. She’s a bit on the lean side but by no means skinny. Not in work at present. We’ve discussed adding alfalfa to her diet, either in hay or soaked pellets.

The feedxl we calculated at a 4lb and 6lb feeding options, but for the chubbier horses I’m pretty sure we will need to give a vitamin or mineral supplement.

One of dh’s goals was to reduce his horse’s feed intake. She was getting 16lbs of a 10% pellet a day and still slightly underweight. We moved her to 10lbs Kalm Ultra (12% protein, 12% fat, 12% fiber) plus as much grass hay as she can eat. No change.

So he’s wondering if something in the processed feeds isn’t working for her. Trying to get away from feeding 10++++ lbs of hard feed a day. Obviously will if needed but if there’s a healthier way for her we’d like to take it.

Dh remrmbers as a young adult having the feed mill mix to his specs… Wanted to try this route.

You don’t say if corn is whole kernels or cracked/rolled. You will get more feed value from cracked or rolled corn because horse can chew it to further break it down during digestion. Whole corn kernels tend to not get chewed well because they are so hard. The kernels then just go on thru the horse instead of getting digested. Wasted money, wasted food product.

We do not feed BOSS or any molasses. Seen too many colics with the BOSS and our horses don’t need sugar in their diet. Locally. molasses will draw water in our high humidity, causing mold in feed, another good reason not to use molasses in feed.

We feed a mix of whole oats, cracked corn and soybean meal, which we have mixed at our lcoal mill. Vitamins and Selenium with Vit E (two different products) are top dressed on the grain mix. Horses get wet beet pulp daily with the grain, in their once-a-day feed. They get grass hay twice a day. We have local Selenium soil deficiency, so daily top dressing is essential to horses having enough Selenium and Vit E to absorb it, in their bodies. Our horses sweat, get used fairly hard when we condition and compete, so they lose Selenium and it has to be replaced. Daily top dressing Selenium on each hors’s feed insures they get enough. We do get them tested to KNOW they are not high or low in Selenium.

We have very good pasture. Soil is tested so yearly fertilizing supplies needed minerals to grow good pasture.

You might remind husband that fat young horses add extra weight on young, soft bone and tendons in legs. Harder to move that load above than if young horse is trim, athletic looking. None of our young horses carry extra weight or look “well rounded to plain fat,” like horses in the feed advertising photos. Fat horses are not desirable, hard on them just like people! We want athletes, not a meat product like beef cattle. Our horses live long, sound, use able lives on this diet. Has he checked her teeth? She might have something going on there. I just can’t feature feeding a young horse 16 pounds of grain daily, with poor results! No one here, even in hard work, gets more than a couple pounds of our mix. We get compliments on their lovely looks when we compete. They are large horses, 16-17H. Their brains would fall out and be unusable with silliness at that quantity of feed!!

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The entire mix of feed is rolled/cracked.

16lbs of feed shocked us too, hence the decrease to 10lbs Tribute. The tribute rep I contacted suggested 7, but I figured I would start at 10 and see where that got us.

I should clairify here that there’s no intention of making her fat (she’s 4, almost 5), but she does need a few more pounds. Winter here is significantly colder than what she’s used to, and while she’s double blanketed, and seems comfortable I know that her energy requirements will be higher in the cold. And when she starts work… He’s hoping 6lbs of his grain will be good but I don’t know if that’s reasonable. Guess some will depend on why she’s not gaining on the other feeds. Lots to figure out.

We also are in a low Se area. I have their Vit E and selenium levels tested yearly. Usually I top dress that, unless I’m feeding essential k, which seems to keep their levels up nicely.

My concern regards what else the feed mill produces. If it produces ANY medicated cattle feed, I would IMMEDIATELY stop using feed from there. The smallest bit of cattle meds will kill a horse - remember all the recent cases?

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I don’t. Can you point me to a source?

eta: they make horse free frequently for area barns. I’ll definitely double check on this however.

The OPs feed here is very similar to a sweet feed which is high calorie and high NSC. I fed this to my very hard working pony in the 1970s and she did great. I wanted her to gallop everywhere and scare pedestrians!

I think sweet feed is still used for working horses but has fallen out of favor for today’s more moderately worked horses, like mine.

However I do mix my own feed, I just don’t get it done at the mill, I buy the components and mix them as I feed. This lets me reduce or increase the ratio as needed. I make a mash out of alfalfa cubes, beet pulp, and whole oats, with flax, salt and a vitamin mineral supplement added. The supplement is by far the biggest expense. If we are off work I can cut out the oats, if I want to get more water into her I can make up an extra alfalfa cube mash, it is very flexible.

So mixing your own feed, absolutely. But you do need to figure out the nutrition. I recommend Julie Getty’s book Feed Your Horse Like a Horse for a really good intro to how to do that.

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I mix my own feed:
alfalfa pellets
flaked barley
rolled oats
Renew Gold
Biostarus Optimum is my choice for a multi vit/min.

Often the main reason companies fortify their feed stuffs is the ingredients are by and large waste products from other milling and /or mfg products and are so processed as to have negligible amounts of nutrients.

I mix all my own feeds too for goats & milk cow. The ingredients are the same but the %'s vary due to which animal I am feeding. My horses get just plain oats with whole flax seed now because they just don’t need anything else. If they did this is what I feed as well.( omit salt & BOSS).

Cracked corn

Oats

Soybean meal

Dried molasses

Alfalfa Pellets

BOSS

Salt

Minerals

I’ve use to mix my own feed,don’t currently because of my old guy. Used to mix alfalfa pellets ,oats ,cracked corn & barley ,molasses and a vit/min. Right now i feed TC senior and alfalfa pellets. Also been mixing a half a bag of cracked corn in with the alfalfa hay.

In my region hay is very low mineral because of the wet climate and hay of course loses vitamins compared to grass.

The amount of vitamins and minerals in a cup of oats, a lb of beet pulp and 12 oz of alfalfa cubes is probably negligible. I feed two of these mashes a day in 2 gallons of hot water to get water into horse, and to carry the supplements.

here ya go: https://www.google.com/search?q=cattle+medicated+feed+kills+horses&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS697US697&oq=cattle+medicated+feed+kills+horses&aqs=chrome..69i57.6794j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

A cup of rolled oats can have quite a bit of nutritional value; manganese, selenium, phosphorus, B1, magnesium, etc