Anyone breeding Irish Draught horses?

We breed ISH’s, but mainly 3/4 or 7/8 TB. That cross suits our clients best. Our ID blood comes from Touch of the Blues and The Irish Rover. We’ve been VERY pleased with our produce. Looks and movement favoring the TB’s, but with the FANTASTIC Irish minds and attitudes. Of course we only use good minded TB’s, too!! Our theory is that even the most brilliant horses aren’t of value if the rider can’t get along with them!! We breed for “User Friendly Atheletes”!! Of course…we also like them best with flashy markings!!

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We have been breeders of Irish Draught Sporthorses for a while now. e are on opposite sides of the continent, however. I would invite you out for the barn tour and nose-kissing, should you ever get out to the great northwest!
MANY pages of photos and info on our website, http:www.IrishHuntersandJumpers.com
We also have a facebook page for the farm, Homesick Angels Farm.

Many people have entered information, all of it valid, I do not need to be repetitive here. These horses speak for themselves, once a person meets them.[/QUOTE]

I ride for this breeder. Can not say enough good things about the IDSH they breed. Their pure bred stallion is wonderful and passes on great qualities to his foals.
I came out of warmblood dominated A/AA show barns, after spending the last year riding IDSH horses I can say with out hesitation they are my favorite. Great brain, talent you name it! I’m a convert :smiley:

Thank you for the all the responses. It has been a busy week - I hope to get pms sent Mon. :confused: Busy, busy week!

Just curious: what would a stallion prospect colt cost here in the States? (Talking purebred ID, preferably)

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We have been breeders of Irish Draught Sporthorses for a while now. e are on opposite sides of the continent, however. I would invite you out for the barn tour and nose-kissing, should you ever get out to the great northwest!
MANY pages of photos and info on our website, http:www.IrishHuntersandJumpers.com
We also have a facebook page for the farm, Homesick Angels Farm.

Many people have entered information, all of it valid, I do not need to be repetitive here. These horses speak for themselves, once a person meets them.[/QUOTE]

How do I not know this? I have an IDSH and even though I didn’t buy for the breed or any knowledge of the breed, I am in love with him and am probably hooked on the breed, slow maturing and all. Off to nose around your Web site! :yes:

I have several young mostly Snowford Bellman sport horses

We are a small breeder of both IDs and IDSH. We have a mother daughter RID and a Selle Francais we are using. I am hoping to have the daughter RID back under saddle this year.

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How do I not know this? I have an IDSH and even though I didn’t buy for the breed or any knowledge of the breed, I am in love with him and am probably hooked on the breed, slow maturing and all. Off to nose around your Web site! :yes:[/QUOTE]

LOL! The Jenners, you are More than welcome to make contact and come for a barn visit - despite our recently rotten weather, and the ensuing muddy/hairy season :slight_smile: Whidbey is not all that far from us - we are East of Monroe just off Hwy 2.
Which IDSH is yours? there are not that many that some of us can’t name a few :slight_smile:

I bred my tall elegant TB mare to Crystal Crest who is by Coolcronan Wood by Sea Crest and is a Silver Merit Stallion. http://www.royalpalmfarm.com/#!crystal-crest-rid/c19tf Andrew Palmer has him in his yard and I understand just loves him. He’s got several videos of him on youtube now. He makes jumping look effortless. He is a more refined RID so should make really lovely ISHs for eventing which is what I am hoping for. My mare is due in August. His semen quality was excellent and his stud fee very reasonable.

I re-PMed you AdABlurr02 :slight_smile:

Also…anyone found any stallions that have more, mmm, of a huntery go? So far I’m lucky and Rory really uses himself, but I’ve seen several that appear to be very rigid over fences and jump over their shoulders. Powerful, capable, but to someone formerly from hunterland, not what I like.

Irish Draughts generally are more known in the jumper ring and the hunt field and eventing, they make their place with their “fifth leg” the ability to somehow get through a mess with both the rider and themselves safely. In America they are becoming known as dressage horses…pretty much all the horses who have gotten the opportunity to train with a pro here have reached Grand Prix in a relatively short amount of time and the judges like them. The form they jump with…usually they tend to jump tight in front but you will find individuals here and there who jump more like a hunter in American show classes. General canters and gallops are very good but Irish Draughts can have more action than modern hunter fashion. They also can be slow starters with their jumping. I have seen and heard of a few Irish Draughts who get to the pint of breaking rails before they figure out you don’t want then to go THROUGH the fences. If they accidently go OVER and get lots of applause and cheering they will have their AHA!!! moment “Ooooh, You want me to go OVER the fence!!! I can do THAT!!!” Many people only go as far as the beginning and write them off. When we persisted past the AHA moment the progress was rapid and the talent was obvious. I have know of a rail breaker who figured it out and showed Grade A in Europe. My advice to new people is to be aware that the Irish Draughts are quite smart and they can over think, they like a partnership but yet they should not be in charge, they like variety, they like challenges, they are not horses for novices when they are younger…just too big and smart…they end up in charge and that is never good. They are great horses for accomplished amateurs who have done a lot of things and want a smart sensible athletic partner to try new things with. They may not be the stylish show hunter but you can do something new for you that they would be good at…something you wouldn’t have tried on another horse but that your Irish gives you the confidence to try. Jumper classes instead of hunter…Irish have done well in equitation type competitions. There is a lot to try. PatO

As PatO said!! But it also depends a lot on the “other half” of the ISH mix. Ours are 3/4 TB - 1/4 Irish or a bit less Irish and the mares are all lovely show hunter types. The offspring–so far are very well suited to the hunter ring with their movement and pretty jumping. Our ex-stallion, Seattle Blues is 1/2 TB and a bit more “functional” in his jumping. He has nice form and tight knees, but makes sure he gets the “job done”. He will cruise over the small stuff, but really applies himself when the jumps get big enough to notice!!

Many of the Mountain Pearl get have the jump you are looking for. Take a look at Bridon Beale Street pictures and you’ll see what I mean! Some of the pictures posted of IDs jumping with tight fold but knees pointing down-ish don’t excite my American eye either! My mare is 1/2 TB by MP and I tried hunters with her for years because she looked, moved and jumped like one. Alas, she hated it and we switched to jumpers a couple years ago and are having an absolute blast. She is so happy and loves her job. I think the Jr/Am jumper market here in the US would be a great place to promote the IDs and crosses. My mare was a difficult ride as a hunter, but she’s becoming a jumper packer! And I’m almost 55, so need a horse I can trust. My mare just says “point me at the jump, Mom…I got this!” I think that’s a very Irish attitude. :slight_smile:

Any news of Mountain Pearl since going back to Ireland? He did have that ‘form over a fence’ we are looking for. As does his son To Be Sure and passing along the temperament. Since I have one, am always interested in the relatives.

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Also…anyone found any stallions that have more, mmm, of a huntery go? So far I’m lucky and Rory really uses himself, but I’ve seen several that appear to be very rigid over fences and jump over their shoulders. Powerful, capable, but to someone formerly from hunterland, not what I like.[/QUOTE]

They are bred for proper hunting, not fake hunting.

There is an interestingly bred son, Declan by the trak/xx stallion Special Memories out of an grand prix jumping Clover Hill mare. He looks like a slightly heavier bigger version of his sire. I hope he gets chance to stand at stud someday as I think he might offer some interesting bloodlines for eventers. He was being shown by an ammie type I think.

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Does anyone know what happened to Western Sun or Foxglen Himself? I rode those two studs in a demo, years ago now, and loved their personalities, way or going etc. Sunny was incredible in the dressage, I really was impressed with his self-carriage and ability

Foxglen stands at Bellwether Farm in Barrington Hills, IL.

What are the thoughts on a TB/ISH cross bred to WB/TB crosses?? I’ve never dealt with any “WB’s” and am wondering whether such a cross on the ISH would be an improvement or detrement. I LOVE the ISH/TB crosses we have. The body type would remain the same, but I’m wondering about the brains!! I know some WB’s can be spookie and difficult. Our ISH’s have outstnding brains!! Thanks.

Really enjoying this thread and appreciate all the pms! I can’t wait to start visiting some of the within-driving area breeders.