Anyone else having issues with Smartpak?

They are using the holidays as an excuse, which normally I would understand but these issues have been going on since WAY before Christmas.

@costco_muffins I had the same issue. I returned two items, they only acknowledged getting one and credited me only for that item. I had to track them down and say “hey wait, where is the other half of my credit” before they fixed it. I dont even know if they refunded me the correct amount either-I got so annoyed with the whole experience I gave up.

I guess that’s better than this week’s experience which was my first inquiry about my return resulted in them responding with “what return?”. Sigh. I told them they better track down the $140 return I sent back with THEIR shipping label asap.

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I also sent in a return. Now I feel obligated to really watch it, which is annoying

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I was just at the store and has my normal great experience! The staff is wonderful and help me so much!

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I’ve never had an issue at the store, but I shouldn’t have to go to a retail store (which I happen to be near to) in order to get things returned promptly, etc.

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Oh so sorry I was just saying my experience was good not trying to get you mad.

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That is very concerning if that is what’s happening. And probably not something that
@Sarah from SmartPak
would comment on. But I am tagging her here anyway.

I have learned that when I make a return, using the SmartPak return label, I take it to a UPS store and get it scanned into the system. Then I have MY tracking number for the box going back, and I can track it back to SP. It takes an extra step or two, but I’d like to know when they get my return.

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They just sent me an email with a code for a $25 credit. It seemed like a mass email that would have gone to everyone who experienced a delayed order.

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Except for some of us who are still waiting weeks on a refund…

Moot point. I don’t want $25. I want my $140 refunded.

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I also got the email but am waiting on a 299.00 refund for defective boots.

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I wasn’t suggesting it was sufficient… just sharing that it happened

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FWIW my refund arrived at the warehouse Monday. Box is still not unpacked. Order due to go out today hasn’t yet as of 2:30pm

Sorry @vxf111 , I didn’t intend for my post to sound snarky at you :slight_smile: I wasn’t trying to shoot the messenger, I am just super annoyed at Smartpak and how this has been handled.

As for your refund, my guess is you are at least 2 weeks out from receiving even an acknowledgement of the return as when I talked to them they were still 5 days out from mine (1/15).

And to add insult to injury … the order scheduled to go out yesterday that I called and was assured WOULD go out yesterday, didn’t. Do the CS reps somehow not know about the delays\problems!?

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@vxf111 I have no idea. So far my only response from CS agents are the cut and paste “So sorry! Our bad! Our CS is wonderful”. I emailed @Sarah from SmartPak to see if I can get my return resolved sooner but I am doubtful I will hear back.

On a side note, if anyone is looking for a blanket option with a guarantee, try Dover’s Northwind series. I just got two turnout sheets on sale for $70 each and a medium with Neck for $120. All three come with a lifetime guarantee. I called Dover and I asked what they covered under that and they said anything, even self inflicted horse stupidity. Everyone recommended the SP Ultimate, but with all of these issues I was doubtful they would stand behind their product when push came to shove.

Bonus I ordered the medium on Sunday night and got it yesterday (shipped from MA, I am in KY), so no shipping delays!

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They just sent me an email with a code for a $25 credit. It seemed like a mass email that would have gone to everyone who experienced a delayed order.

My BO got the email. She said her delay happened before mine and wasn’t as bad as mine.

Hoping I’ll get one too. I’ll be happy to use it on something I don’t need asap :lol:

I had a sheet delayed and then ordered a blanket (my horse was kind enough to destroy both of his in the span of a week). The blanket was needed quickly but of course was delayed. Took two chats w/ CS to get it on its way. They did upgrade it to overnight shipping without me asking, but it still got delayed in KY due to weather. I really hope the steps they are implementing after this debacle helps.

I am happy that the smartpaks themselves have not been delayed.

I also got the cut and paste email. I’m grateful they acknowledged the issue, but I can’t help but feel that it would have cost less to just hire more people than to give $25 to every customer who ordered something in the past 4 months.

Anyone else notice this thread is now 3 months old? And it sounds as though many of the issues from 3 months ago have only gotten worse.

Admittedly, I haven’t ordered from SmartPak since this spring (ordered irons and leathers, leathers were 2 different lengths and neither were the length I ordered) and this thread isn’t making me want to do further business with them.

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In post 222 Sarah says they tried to hire more people but the workforce is in short supply. Our town has a hard time getting good workers also so I can sympathize with the problem.

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I checked in with SP CS today and she shared that they are unloading returns from 1/16-1/17 today which means my 1/17 return should/could be processed today. When a return is made, SP states to allow 2 weeks for the order to be processed and in this example the process has exceeded that timeline.

I too received the $25 “we apologise” email which is a nice gesture on SP part. I hope they can improve their game.

Hey COTH-ers,

First of all, thanks to all of you who’ve responded on here, DM’d me, emailed directly, or responded to our apology email earlier this week to let us know that you appreciated the communication, and in many cases, are still SmartPak fans. I can’t tell you how much it meant to me to read your comments.

I’m sorry I haven’t checked in on this thread sooner, but it’s amazing how quickly the days go by here! I did want to update you on the status of our returns, which I know have been anything but quick lately.

Lots of what’s in this post is going to look familiar to @Jersey Fresh, since she emailed me directly yesterday, and I responded earlier today. But for the rest of you, hopefully this information will be informative and - ideally - reassuring.

Let me start by saying that we are absolutely, unequivocally, in no way intentionally holding on to returns for financial-related reasons. While I don’t doubt that that’s a practice out in the world, and I don’t blame everyone for being distrustful of “faceless corporations,” I can personally assure you - as someone who’s often the face and voice of SmartPak - we would never do anything like that. That’s just the absolute polar opposite of how we operate.

With that out of the way, I’d like to address some of the other questions/issues I heard in these recent comments:

How did our returns team get so far behind?
As I’m sure you can imagine, the post-holiday timeframe brings a huge volume of returns and exchanges for the team to process. And as you guys know all too well, we’ve had considerable struggles getting shipments out on time, due to a number of compounding factors, one of which is a labor shortage due to an extremely competitive environment for warehouse workers (thanks for reiterating that for me, @My Two Cents!). In order to get “all hands on deck” to help get orders out the door, we had to pull some of the folks who typically work on processing returns, and have them work in our fulfillment team. That of course put us even further behind than normal seasonal volume.

What are we going to do about it?
We solved our largest problem first, which was outbound shipping of normal orders. I’m happy to report that we (finally) have resolved that issue, and we’re now turning our focus to returns. I’m hopeful that we can right that ship within the next week.

Beyond that, we’ve already had several conversations and strategy sessions, and we’ve got an upcoming full-day “root cause analysis” project planned with a cross-departmental group of leaders from across the company, to help us fully understand all the different factors that contributed to this utter failure in service, so that we can learn from this and make sure we’re always able to hit the quality and service levels that made you all customers in the first place.

Why’d you send an apology email to some people and not everyone?
The apology email that went out earlier this week was targeted to customers whose orders shipped out late over the last several months. Unfortunately, we couldn’t realistically run a script to find all customers affected by any sort of service failure, which is why not everyone was on the list. We knew this was going to be the case, but we actually were counting on the fact that the horse community is small, and riders trust us to make things right, so if someone has had a negative experience and didn’t receive an apology, you’d email us and give us a chance to make it right. I’m really glad that @Jersey Fresh took me at my word and did exactly that. I really do want to hear from you guys when we let you down. We’re SmartPak, we can do better, and I trust you all to hold us accountable if we falter here or there.

Do you really think $25 is enough to make this right?
Absolutely not. We talked about this a lot, as a leadership team. There’s no across-the-board amount that’s going to make letting our customers down right. In the email, I tried very hard to explain that this gift code wasn’t intended to offset the bad experience - nothing can do that, the damage has been done. Instead, the gift code was intended to be an investment in what we hope to be a continued relationship. We’re telling you that we’re really sorry to have let you down, and that we really want the chance to prove that we are the same old SmartPak you’ve known and loved, and the gift code was an effort to “put our money where our mouth is” and invest in giving you a risk-free opportunity to give us another shot.

I hope you all understand that all of this information is intended as an explanation, not an excuse. As I said in my earlier post and in the apology email earlier this week, this recent service failure was completely unacceptable. We are embarrassed, ashamed, and deeply sorry. Our commitment to customer service has been core to our mission from day one, and over these past few months, we’ve failed to live up to that. While we wish there was something we could do to change that, all we can do is assure you that our leadership team has worked aggressively to solve the problem completely, and we’re actively working to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again.

Thank you guys, again, for sharing your feedback and keeping us honest. While I hate hearing that we let you down, I firmly believe that the only problem we can’t fix is the one we don’t know about, so I always appreciate the opportunity to hear your concerns and address them directly.

If you have a situation that still feels unresolved, or you feel like your concerns weren’t effectively heard, I would absolutely encourage you to reach out to me. Hopefully @Jersey Fresh would recommend it as well, based on her experience.

Have a great ride,

SmartPaker Sarah
VP of Brand & Customer Experience
774-773-1410
SMann@SmartPak.com

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