[QUOTE=Daisyrae;8548582]
The law we have is similar. E-collars, voice commands, visual signals, are all acceptable as “physical restraint.” It allows people to trail ride and hike and such with their dogs without having to confine them to a leash.[/QUOTE]
Never thought of that. Thanks 
Yes and? I never denied this nor changed it.
Because in the Op you admitted this might be possible and that it had happened before but over time you have really changed your tune.
Holy cow, so many things going on!
I’m glad you are putting up a taller fence, 4 ft is way too short to contain most dogs. A gsd can easily jump 6 ft. Plus moving it back will help. Blessings to the poster that said a person can just move to the other side of the street if they are afraid of a dog lunging and barking at the fence as they walk by (let alone 6 big dogs, good grief!).
So many people say “oh that can’t be my dog, my dog never does anything like that”. Dogs in a pack can and will get up to a lot of no good.
And to the people that get breeds like border collies or heelers - listen, most of those dogs need to work. If you can’t provide them with the fundamentals that they need to be good, happy dogs, please get a different breed! I help with the local rescues and I wish I could give these owners a swift kick in the rear. Bring the dog to the shelter because it digs in the yard, escapes, barks all the time, etc. And when you ask how the dog is cared for they say something like “well I work all day and when I get home I’m tired or I’ve got to run errands, blah, blah, blah”. What you don’t hear is that their dog gets ample exercise and quality mental simulation. And don’t even get me started on dog breeds that crave a pack life and working together (like huskies).
OP, I hope I’m wrong, but you sound like a bad neighbor. I sure hope everything goes okay for your dogs sake. 
And why are you against setting up game cameras?
Anything is possible. And yes, as I stated, two of my dogs have managed to get out of the fence before. I solved the problem of how those to got out. The jumper stays inside now and I fixed the hole in the fence.
My tune is the same. But I’m done defending myself. If you have no help on the actual situation, don’t post. Go on about your day as if this post never happened. Because it clearly isn’t relevant to you and you’re not helping.
[QUOTE=Gestalt;8548650]
Holy cow, so many things going on!
I’m glad you are putting up a taller fence, 4 ft is way too short to contain most dogs. A gsd can easily jump 6 ft. Plus moving it back will help. Blessings to the poster that said a person can just move to the other side of the street if they are afraid of a dog lunging and barking at the fence as they walk by (let alone 6 big dogs, good grief!).
So many people say “oh that can’t be my dog, my dog never does anything like that”. Dogs in a pack can and will get up to a lot of no good.
And to the people that get breeds like border collies or heelers - listen, most of those dogs need to work. If you can’t provide them with the fundamentals that they need to be good, happy dogs, please get a different breed! I help with the local rescues and I wish I could give these owners a swift kick in the rear. Bring the dog to the shelter because it digs in the yard, escapes, barks all the time, etc. And when you ask how the dog is cared for they say something like “well I work all day and when I get home I’m tired or I’ve got to run errands, blah, blah, blah”. What you don’t hear is that their dog gets ample exercise and quality mental simulation. And don’t even get me started on dog breeds that crave a pack life and working together (like huskies).
OP, I hope I’m wrong, but you sound like a bad neighbor. I sure hope everything goes okay for your dogs sake. And why are you against setting up game cameras?[/QUOTE]
Im a neighbor who minds my own business. If that makes me a bad neighbor, then I guess I am. And I’m not against the cameras, but all the ones I’ve seen connect to wifi. Which I don’t have. It’s not relevant to this post though.
[QUOTE=Daisyrae;8548582]
The law we have is similar. E-collars, voice commands, visual signals, are all acceptable as “physical restraint.” It allows people to trail ride and hike and such with their dogs without having to confine them to a leash.[/QUOTE]
That what our AC in my town told me too.
[QUOTE=Crockpot;8548557]
from the OP. for example[/QUOTE]
A little back story, I have 6 dogs. And yes, from time to time, my dogs have gotten out.
Are we defining “from time to time” now? 2 times in 5 years could easily be from time to time.
OP, I feel for you. You have been wronged, and your neighbors are JERKS. You need to march into that courtroom and give the judge the FACTS: there is zero proof your dogs are bad, and they only get out once in a while, and they’re really well-trained - definitely mention that you professionally train them in bite work.
BTW, the leash law thing makes sense, if you think about it. Leash laws aren’t in place to ensure each dog has a snappy accessory, it’s to ensure dogs are under control. A dog which has the nature and the training to obey vocal commands even under stress is under better control than a leashed dog whose owner doesn’t/can’t/won’t prevent it from biting. Of course, it’s a rare dog that has that nature/training combo, so we usually get leash laws instead.
It does make sense once you think about it, I honestly never thought about it. I’ve always kept my dogs on a leash when hiking or at the lake but I’m now super excited to know that I can let them off the leash at the lake so they can play farther out in the water than I am willing to go!
I’m hoping my stance in rescue work in our county and the fact that I’m
In the process of getting a law changed regarding shelter dogs that it will
Give me a good name in the city at the least! So if in the future the neighbor calls to complain, they will tell him to leave me alone
[QUOTE=Ready To Riot;8546583]
Wow. I had no idea this board was full of such ignorant people. Accidents happen. It doesn’t make anyone negligent. I can almost bet that at some point you’ve had an animal lose be it a dog, cat, horse, whatever.
I didn’t open my gate and say run free! Ridiculous minded people bug me.[/QUOTE]
Yes and apparently they bug your neighbors as well.
You don’t need six dogs. You don’t need ONE vicious dog.
Why on earth would you want six? Vicious?
:no:
[QUOTE=RPM;8550206]
Yes and apparently they bug your neighbors as well.
You don’t need six dogs. You don’t need ONE vicious dog.
Why on earth would you want six? Vicious?
:no:[/QUOTE]
I don’t need 7 cats either…including the one that bites. My bad?
why do you care how many dogs she has? What makes you judge on the acceptable number?
[QUOTE=RPM;8550206]
Yes and apparently they bug your neighbors as well.
You don’t need six dogs. You don’t need ONE vicious dog.
Why on earth would you want six? Vicious?
:no:[/QUOTE]
Who the hell are you to tell me what I do and don’t need?
I’m not even going to explain to you why I have them because it’s none of your concern.
Do you have a dog? Is it a service dog? If not, you don’t need it. What about a horse? That’s definitely not needed.
I want them so I have them. You should probably practice what you preach and get rid of everything you don’t need.
[QUOTE=Dramapony_misty;8546649]
Whoa, killer…are you referring directly to the OP’s dogs or are you blaming your own neighborhood doggie-gang issues on all dog owners? Seems to be the latter.
Maybe you should lay off the exclamation point hysterics in order for your point to be taken more seriously. Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
Two thumbs up for being reasonable.
[QUOTE=Ready To Riot;8550137]
It does make sense once you think about it, I honestly never thought about it. I’ve always kept my dogs on a leash when hiking or at the lake but I’m now super excited to know that I can let them off the leash at the lake so they can play farther out in the water than I am willing to go!
I’m hoping my stance in rescue work in our county and the fact that I’m
In the process of getting a law changed regarding shelter dogs that it will
Give me a good name in the city at the least! So if in the future the neighbor calls to complain, they will tell him to leave me alone[/QUOTE]
Of course I don’t know your situation but if your dogs could be confined indoors during your absences there would be nothing to complain about.
we lived on 10 acres and one sunny summer afternoon me and my dog were playing with a tennis ball I bounced off the roof. Great fun it was until neighbour called in a hissy fit enquiring could I not hear my dog barking. So I have little regard for neighbours like that.
I can but I hate doing it on nice days, ya know?
After the fence is complete, I have a plan to start a Working on having large suite like kennels put in my detached garage. For them as well for any fosters I have so they don’t have to stay in their crates if they have to be up. I only trust two of them outside their crates at home alone for an extended amount of time.
[QUOTE=Ready To Riot;8550137]
It does make sense once you think about it, I honestly never thought about it. I’ve always kept my dogs on a leash when hiking or at the lake but I’m now super excited to know that I can let them off the leash at the lake so they can play farther out in the water than I am willing to go!
I’m hoping my stance in rescue work in our county and the fact that I’m
In the process of getting a law changed regarding shelter dogs that it will
Give me a good name in the city at the least! So if in the future the neighbor calls to complain, they will tell him to leave me alone[/QUOTE]
Hi, have you retained legal counsel yet?
[QUOTE=RPM;8550206]
Yes and apparently they bug your neighbors as well.
You don’t need six dogs. You don’t need ONE vicious dog.
Why on earth would you want six? Vicious?
:no:[/QUOTE]
Let’s not confuse vicious with protective. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. Most naturally protective dogs bark, snarl and position themselves between the person they’re protecting and the perceived threat. That is more than enough warning for a normal person to back away. I think that barking at people on the fence line is more attention getting than threat.
In most jurisdictions, dogs at large is an infraction - you can pay the fine or contest and go to court. Is it a misdemeanor summons? At any rate, all the police or AC need is “probable cause”. So a couple of people believing that they see your dogs out on different occasions would qualify. However, to find you “guilty” they need to prove the case. And of course you can present opposing evidence. You need to decide whether it is worth it to hire a lawyer for this. Again, in some places you may be able to reach an agreement without going to court - so in this case you present your improved plans to contain the dogs to ease the neighbors’ minds. Would likely be the best way to gain some peace in the neighborhood.
[QUOTE=rubles;8551033]
Let’s not confuse vicious with protective. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. Most naturally protective dogs bark, snarl and position themselves between the person they’re protecting and the perceived threat. That is more than enough warning for a normal person to back away. I think that barking at people on the fence line is more attention getting than threat.[/QUOTE]
Sure, except I don’t know if you read the part where the OP stated that 5 of the 6 pack are bite trained and the remainder is a trained attack dog.
I do not know if having one dog trained to “kill” and 5 other dogs trained to bite will go in your favor. Plus your combative nature on this thread might lead to things not going your way.
I also think that repeatedly going off of your driveway into the neighbor’s grass until he said something to you was a very very bad way to start the relationship with your neighbor. That’s on you.
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