Anyone gone to court for their dogs running at large?

[macmtn]

[QUOTE=rubles;8551033]
Let’s not confuse vicious with protective. It’s like comparing apples to oranges. Most naturally protective dogs bark, snarl and position themselves between the person they’re protecting and the perceived threat. That is more than enough warning for a normal person to back away. I think that barking at people on the fence line is more attention getting than threat.[/QUOTE]

nope. If a stranger was deep on her lawn…up against her fence and the dogs inside the fence went nuts…they are defending their turf.

[Ready_To_Riot]

[QUOTE=enjoytheride;8551152]
I do not know if having one dog trained to “kill” and 5 other dogs trained to bite will go in your favor. Plus your combative nature on this thread might lead to things not going your way.

I also think that repeatedly going off of your driveway into the neighbor’s grass until he said something to you was a very very bad way to start the relationship with your neighbor. That’s on you.[/QUOTE]

My dogs are not being questioned on their aggression, so it’s irrelevant.

And I had no idea that I was going into his yard. Saying it was a foot into his yard was being generous. It was like I was spinning tires in his front yard. My point of speaking on that instance was that he very nicely brought it to my attention and we resolved to problem. I’m baffled as to why he could never personal come to me about the dogs when he was so willing to about the yard incident.

[Bicoastal]

[QUOTE=vacation1;8549457]
OP, I feel for you. You have been wronged, and your neighbors are JERKS. You need to march into that courtroom and give the judge the FACTS: there is zero proof your dogs are bad, and they only get out once in a while, and they’re really well-trained - definitely mention that you professionally train them in bite work. [/QUOTE]

I read this as sarcasm. If it is literal, it is a funny example of how differently people are viewing this situation.

[TrotTrotPumpkn]

Is this about something else perhaps? Do your dogs go out in their fenced in yard when you aren’t home? Unless you have bark collars on all six of them, I’m guessing they bark…a lot. They probably bark every time they see something interesting, something startling, a stranger, etc.

I imagine your neighbors want them gone for that reason and this is just the beginning. Of course, I could be wrong about the barking–feel free to correct me. I just know how annoying my two bigger dogs are if they are barking together.

FWIW, I wouldn’t mention online that you train your dogs in “bite work.” Especially when you have a personal protection dog (which I assume is doing hidden suit work). Heck, even the Schutzhund people call it IPO and “grip training” now!

Lots of GSDs probably CAN’T jump a 6’ wall…sadly.

[macmtn]

Update?

[Ready_To_Riot]

Nothing. It was dismissed

They asked if my dogs were contained. I said yes and judge said okay. I didn’t even have to pay court costs

[o0rxkxrox0o]

[QUOTE=Ready To Riot;8558697]
Nothing. It was dismissed

They asked if my dogs were contained. I said yes and judge said okay. I didn’t even have to pay court costs[/QUOTE]

Good to hear OP.

[scierra]

Good to hear. Thank you for the update.

[rubles]

Fabulous! Just what I wanted to hear.

[macmtn]

Awwwesome! Scritches to your parolees:D

still think a camera…visibly installed…might be a hassle determent.

[vacation1]

[QUOTE=Bicoastal;8552464]
I read this as sarcasm. If it is literal, it is a funny example of how differently people are viewing this situation.[/QUOTE]

Honestly, I was hoping to get her arrested for annoying/attacking the judge. But it seems to have worked out in her favor (those poor neighbors) so I suspect we’re in for a future thread about how her totally cool, perfectly trained attack dogs ended up shot to death by a rotten cop/neighbor/random passerby.
Or how she’s going back to court because some stupid kid provoked them while they were roaming free at the lake, which appears to be a public place she’s now fantasizing about taking her pack of killers who protect her from unknown enemies.

[saje]

Some people here are really good at making 2 + 2 = 10,000.

[Sswor]

[QUOTE=vacation1;8560911]

Or how she’s going back to court because some stupid kid provoked them while they were roaming free at the lake, which appears to be a public place she’s now fantasizing about taking her pack of killers who protect her from unknown enemies.[/QUOTE]

Yeah that bothered me too.

I hope I don’t live near the OP. Agreed with poor neighbors. Poor unassuming lake visitors too.

[Just_My_02]

[QUOTE=Sswor;8561183]
Yeah that bothered me too.

I hope I don’t live near the OP. Agreed with poor neighbors. Poor unassuming lake visitors too.[/QUOTE]

She needs a warning sign. Betsey Trotwood lives here.

[o0rxkxrox0o]

[QUOTE=Ready To Riot;8547340]

And even though it’s no ones business, I do have an abusive ex. That’s why I got my large dogs. One of them is a full on personal protection dog. My ex has no idea which one it is. That one, never leaves my side and if he can’t be with me, he is in the house. That dog has never gotten out of the fence as I know the liability I run with him. That dog is why I have the signs. Because I have to by law. If my ex comes after me, I can send my dog after him. My dog can kill him, and I can be charged with nothing. The other ones know how to bark on command and will bite a dummy arm, but unless they see their tug, they don’t bite. But if you come near my fence I welcomed, they will bark. Because they should.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=vacation1;8560911]Honestly, I was hoping to get her arrested for annoying/attacking the judge. But it seems to have worked out in her favor (those poor neighbors) so I suspect we’re in for a future thread about how her totally cool, perfectly trained attack dogs ended up shot to death by a rotten cop/neighbor/random passerby.
Or how she’s going back to court because some stupid kid provoked them while they were roaming free at the lake, which appears to be a public place she’s now fantasizing about taking her pack of killers who protect her from unknown enemies.[/QUOTE]

Wow. You’re coming off here as really, really rude. You also seem to have problems with reading comprehension.

[vacation1]

[QUOTE=o0rxkxrox0o;8561460]
Wow. You’re coming off here as really, really rude. You also seem to have problems with reading comprehension.[/QUOTE]

Well, that’s the thing about being aggressively rude and nasty to the first 25 people who respond to your thread - the next 25 kinda feel like you established a certain tone and level of behavior. As perhaps you yourself understand, having responded to my perceived rudeness by being rude in turn. Yes, I missed that little nugget about her sad marital history, which perhaps accounts for her anger and defensiveness, but does not justify her both turning her pets into weapons and permitting them to behave as normal pets, ie, running loose. Attack-trained dogs can’t have “Oops, old Scout got out the fence again!” moments.

[DressageFancy]

[QUOTE=Casey09;8546935]
I love GSDs and I don’t think that a dog escaping twice in 5 years signifies a major problem, and I think dogs barking behind a fence at someone in their yard is natural and not a bad thing.
I do worry about escapes though. It only takes once for your dog to be hit by a car. I had a dog get away from me, and he was almost immediately hit by a car. I would also worry about a person poisoning the dogs or letting them out if there are any neighbor issues whatsoever. Personally, I would leave them inside when you can’t be outside with them. I’m very cautious with my animals. If you can’t do that, make sure your fence is in perfect shape.
I’d be interested to know how the appearance goes. I’ve never had to do that, but I did have a neighbor accuse me of not picking up after my dog - which was 100 percent untrue. I always carry bags and always pick up. However, he’d seen me walking my dogs and assumed it must be me. I also had a neighbor call me to say my dog was out. Never say never, but my dogs are never out. I thanked her of course because she was doing it out of concern, but the dog that was out was completely different than mine - just the same color. Many people are going to assume any big dog outside is yours. I’d try to make friends with as many neighbors as possible, give them your cell number, and ask them to call if they have any problems or to call AC about any dogs running loose. You just have to be very careful because a lot of people do not like large dogs.[/QUOTE]

Here in Ohio we lost a K-9 officer because he spotted some interesting dog thing and dashed away from his handler into traffic. This was a very well trained and handled dog but sometimes “s@#t” happends.

[babecakes]

[QUOTE=vacation1;8561733]
Well, that’s the thing about being aggressively rude and nasty to the first 25 people who respond to your thread - the next 25 kinda feel like you established a certain tone and level of behavior. [/QUOTE]

You all it’s already history here. Vaca1 go read her previous threads. Her designation here, Ready to Riot, is prophetic.

[arapaloosa_lady]

[QUOTE=Ready To Riot;8550394]
I can but I hate doing it on nice days, ya know?

After the fence is complete, I have a plan to start a Working on having large suite like kennels put in my detached garage. For them as well for any fosters I have so they don’t have to stay in their crates if they have to be up. I only trust two of them outside their crates at home alone for an extended amount of time.[/QUOTE]

You don’t trust your dogs to be loose in your house but you’re assuming that they behave while loose in your yard? I’d be very surprised if they weren’t barking up a storm at all sorts of things.

You’re probably going to ignore this… but if I were you, I’d do a lot of things. Including, putting up a 2-fence system, one of which should be a solid fence. Using a video camera, at least intermittently, to find out what your dogs are actually doing outside alone. And work on a way to prevent that pack mentality at the fence. One barks, so the other barks, so you have 6 barking dogs at a fence getting very aroused… and biting is something that happens in an aroused state. If they are all riled up, and some little kid runs up and sticks his hand in the fence, it wouldn’t be unheard of for an aroused dog to take a chomp at that hand. Even if he is good with kids in a quiet environment. Which puts you (and them) in a world of trouble.

[China_Doll]

[QUOTE=Ready To Riot;8546547]
You clearly misread my post. My dogs do not get out. There has been 1 time in the 5 years my dog has gotten out the fence. Once. One dog. Jumped the fence.

I live in a community of older retired people. I have 6 large German Shepard type dogs (mixes) that bark loudly if you come near my fence and I have 5 beware of dog signs posted along that fence. I want people scared of them. I live alone. But they don’t get out and terrorize people.

ETA, I’m sorry, twice. The day I moved in 5 years ago my female discover a hole in the fence I missed.

Twice in 5 years[/QUOTE]which is it? One time in 5 years or from time to time? Sounds like they probably get lose more than you would like to admit.