Anyone gone to court for their dogs running at large?

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But if you come near my fence I welcomed, they will bark. Because they should.[/QUOTE]

Just wanted to add since I saw this quoted; no, they shouldn’t. Guard dogs should guard what’s inside your fence, not what’s outside. You should have a solid fence that your dogs cannot see through so they stop harassing the neighbors and passersby.

Someone earlier said people should just cross the street if 6 large dogs are barking aggressively at a fence line and it makes you uncomfortable. I would argue that on a public street, you shouldn’t have to. I wonder if crossing the street helped the little boy and his mom in Detroit last year not get fatally attacked by dogs behind a fence.

6 large dogs menacing a fence line are a Bad Thing waiting to happen.

Congratulations on court just being a ticket and not a lawsuit. Can’t hurt to take it as a warning.

Wow. You people amaze me. FYI I didn’t get a “ticket” either.

Some of you are the most terrible people I have ever had the “pleasure” if meeting. This thread is over with it. Drop it and try growing up.

And for the record “I don’t trust a few of the dogs loss in my house” doesn’t mean they run around tearing up things. It means I’m not 100% sure they won’t pee on things. Which is why they are crate trained. Idiot.

But yes, I’m going to take my rabid beasts out in public (which I do daily) and terrorize everyone and eat small children. Don’t forget they will be at horse shows too. I asked about that not too long ago. I’m going to bring them there to eat your precious show horses because God knows they are foaming at the mouth when they see a horse (I’m not sure why they haven’t eaten mine when they run around the farm. I guess I just like the risk of never knowing). And if any of you guys are at Rolex, well you should just not go. Despite the fact that the dogs have walked around kindly in years past, they are now rabid beasts who want to kill and will probably eat you. Just stay home. I’m out to kill everyone!

I seriously hope you all aren’t as big asshats in real life as you are on the Internet. There should be an award for you guys. “Most pretentious asshat to roam the World Wide Web”

And good bye

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Wow. You people amaze me. FYI I didn’t get a “ticket” either.

Some of you are the most terrible people I have ever had the “pleasure” if meeting. This thread is over with it. Drop it and try growing up.

And for the record “I don’t trust a few of the dogs loss in my house” doesn’t mean they run around tearing up things. It means I’m not 100% sure they won’t pee on things. Which is why they are crate trained. Idiot.

But yes, I’m going to take my rabid beasts out in public (which I do daily) and terrorize everyone and eat small children. Don’t forget they will be at horse shows too. I asked about that not too long ago. I’m going to bring them there to eat your precious show horses because God knows they are foaming at the mouth when they see a horse (I’m not sure why they haven’t eaten mine when they run around the farm. I guess I just like the risk of never knowing). And if any of you guys are at Rolex, well you should just not go. Despite the fact that the dogs have walked around kindly in years past, they are now rabid beasts who want to kill and will probably eat you. Just stay home. I’m out to kill everyone!

I seriously hope you all aren’t as big asshats in real life as you are on the Internet. There should be an award for you guys. “Most pretentious asshat to roam the World Wide Web”

And good bye[/QUOT

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[QUOTE=Ready To Riot;8562125]
Wow. You people amaze me. FYI I didn’t get a “ticket” either.

Some of you are the most terrible people I have ever had the “pleasure” if meeting. This thread is over with it. Drop it and try growing up.

And for the record “I don’t trust a few of the dogs loss in my house” doesn’t mean they run around tearing up things. It means I’m not 100% sure they won’t pee on things. Which is why they are crate trained. Idiot.

But yes, I’m going to take my rabid beasts out in public (which I do daily) and terrorize everyone and eat small children. Don’t forget they will be at horse shows too. I asked about that not too long ago. I’m going to bring them there to eat your precious show horses because God knows they are foaming at the mouth when they see a horse (I’m not sure why they haven’t eaten mine when they run around the farm. I guess I just like the risk of never knowing). And if any of you guys are at Rolex, well you should just not go. Despite the fact that the dogs have walked around kindly in years past, they are now rabid beasts who want to kill and will probably eat you. Just stay home. I’m out to kill everyone!

I seriously hope you all aren’t as big asshats in real life as you are on the Internet. There should be an award for you guys. “Most pretentious asshat to roam the World Wide Web”

And good bye[/QUOTE]

well I saved it but OP had already changed it.
Owning vicious dogs requires that you make sure they cannot jump the fence or get out in any way to harm neighbors and their animals. Pet ownership requires you are responsible and train your animals and respect the rights of people who walk by your fence. This sometimes requires a privacy fence to keep your dogs from eating the neighbors. Your problems with your ex and getting vicious dogs because of him should not be inflicted on your neighbors.

AUS

My goodness but someone is sensitive. OP, I don’t think you are cut out for soliciting advice on the internet. Perhaps best to find a “safe place” for yourself. Best regards to you and your trained attack dogs. Godspeed to your neighbors.

LET IT GO.
I’m beginning to think most of us (yeah, I’m including me, I have my problems) wouldn’t pass guard dog training.

I really shouldn’t be beating a dead horse but here goes:

This is exactly the situation that makes it difficult for the rest of us to have “dangerous breeds”. This is why bully breeds, GSD, huskies, Akitas, mastiffs, rotties, dobermans, etc are euthanized and abandoned at an alarming rate. This is why those of us who do own these breeds have difficulty finding good housing, pay more for our insurance, and can’t take our dogs on vacation with us. This is why my Akita mixes could be euthanized if they ever bit someone, but my neighbor’s JRT has done it four with no repercussions.

I am sorry if this comes off as harsh, and I am not just addressing one person, but the owners who get protective breeds because they are big, intimidating, and you think they will keep your yard/person safe are causing the previously mentioned problems for the rest of us, who get these dogs because we like the individual. OP, look what you have done: 6 large dogs with territorial aggression, they lunge at people who walk by, beware of the dog signs posted everywhere, you leave them out in a pack when you are gone, you refuse to acknowledge that they have gotten out multiple times, you have trained bite work, you have stated here that you “need them for protection”, you want people to be afraid of them and you dismiss your neighbor’s completely warranted concerns about them.

One, this is a disaster waiting to happen. How many stories do you hear about dog attacks where the owners say “it came out of nowhere?”. Well, when 6 large dogs who have been trained to bite attack out of nowhere, somebody is going to get killed. Second, teaching bite work to rescue dogs of unknown history, and (from what I can tell from your posts) a biased perception of their disposition is incredibly dangerous and irresponsible. You call it Shutzhund, but Shutzhund is a sport. If you are not using the things you have taught in actual competitions, you have trained shoddy protection work for your own purposes and are trying to pass it off as something acceptable. Third, if you have dogs that are perceived by your neighbors as “dangerous” then you need to do everything in your power to change that perception. I can’t imagine that your entire neighborhood dislikes you for reasons that are based on your age and who you are dating, especially after seeing your attitude on here. You should have been identifying the people who are uncomfortable with your dogs and working to remedy that fear. Not doing so is dangerous for your animals, who could be taken away by AC, put to sleep, removed by one of your neighbors, or even poisoned (I have seen it happen).

As somebody who owns a heavily stigmatized breed (Akitas), I am constantly working to make sure they are good citizens. They are both rescues, but I have done everything I possibly can to make sure they are friendly and not feared by the public. I have poured hundreds of dollars into their training so they can pass all the levels of the CGC, work for therapy organizations, and make safe choices. I believe it would be irresponsible on my part to do anything else, because if I do, I am directly contributing to the issues that surround “restricted” breeds in our country. And, here is the thing: even though they have been trained to be self controlled and gentle dogs, I know they would destroy anyone who tried to hurt one of their people. Most dogs, especially protective breeds, do not need bite work, isolation, or territorial aggression to defend their loved ones if worst comes to worst. The things you have put in place with your dogs in the name of protection are simply not needed, and harmful to the reputation of the breeds that the rest of us are trying to have accepted back into society.

I am sorry for being harsh on you, and I really don’t mean to speak to you in particular. However, I know that many of the “dangerous breeds” have developed their reputation because their are irresponsible people out there who own them for the wrong reasons. I am not implying that you do specially, but it certainly doesn’t seem like anything you do advances the idea that the aforementioned breeds are safe animals either.

Something that is directed at you, however, is one thing: there is a dog in my parent’s neighborhood who gets out almost every week. He runs through people’s yards and pulls up their flowers and tries to engage everybody he passes in play. I have tracked down and caught this dog 5 times, so I know he gets out alot. However, nobody has ever lodged a legal complaint (or even gets too angry with the dog’s family) because the dog is friendly and the owner is kind and apologetic. He is a lab/pit, so it is not about breed in this case. I would think seriously about your and your dog’s behavior, because a well liked/well behaved member of the community would likely not be having the same problems that you are.

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AUS[/QUOTE]

:lol:

I wish they would refuse to admit dogs to Rolex. Remember when a dog attacked Buck Davidson’s horse?

Here’s an old thread about dogs at horse trials.

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/showthread.php?433897-Should-I-take-my-dog-to-Rolex

Learn sarcasm people. Y’all are ridiculous save whatever you want. I only edited a grammar error.

I do find it hilarious that somehow you are filing complaints against my dogs being vicious, but neighbor actually didn’t! That was never what it was about. But now my dogs have turned into dangerous rabid beasts who tear apart small children and dogs. And horses. And elders.

And don’t start the dog at Rolex topic in this thread. It’s a dead horse. Quit beating it. Actually do whatever you want with this thread. It has already become the most ridiculous one here on the forums.

So much for goodbye cruel world-

FYI I didn’t get a “ticket” either.

So the way that is phrased guess there was at least a warning or you would have posted something else :wink:

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So much for goodbye cruel world-

So the way that is phrased guess there was at least a warning or you would have posted something else ;-)[/QUOTE]

It was a complaint. After a complaint in my city, they make you come to court. If said complaint is true you are then fined. If it’s not (my case) you aren’t. No warning. Nothing.

Ready To Riot…my appologize if you have already answered this…why do you have 6 protection/guard dogs if you have one ex who you fear? One or two well trained guard dogs are a true force to be re-conned with. Are you that paranoid he is going to get in?

I have had Northern Breeds off and on for 30 years, my little ACD/GSD mix is my first really thinking dog who is a very good protect dog. I have seen the ignorance and stupidity surrounding Siberian Husky’s, Malamutes, the Akita’s and that is one of the reasons I got out of rescue. Many think they are wolfs or wolf hybrids, other stupid people breed them to a wolf, I could go on and on. When one bites someone the whole breed is damned by one ignorant person.

You do your chosen breed NO favor’s having them as they are. You too are damning that breed now, perpetuating the misconception of vicious dog, mean dog, etc.

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Ready To Riot…my appologize if you have already answered this…why do you have 6 protection/guard dogs if you have one ex who you fear? One or two well trained guard dogs are a true force to be re-conned with. Are you that paranoid he is going to get in?

I have had Northern Breeds off and on for 30 years, my little ACD/GSD mix is my first really thinking dog who is a very good protect dog. I have seen the ignorance and stupidity surrounding Siberian Husky’s, Malamutes, the Akita’s and that is one of the reasons I got out of rescue. Many think they are wolfs or wolf hybrids, other stupid people breed them to a wolf, I could go on and on. When one bites someone the whole breed is damned by one ignorant person.

You do your chosen breed NO favor’s having them as they are. You too are damning that breed now, perpetuating the misconception of vicious dog, mean dog, etc.[/QUOTE]

I did answer. I rescue. All of said dogs I have are rescue dogs. Only one is a trained protection dog, the others have been trained in schutzhund. Which means they learned to bite a tug. Not a person. They are trained in it because I find it fun and I train dogs in that for a living (as well as other kinds of dog training). I do not have 6 protection dogs. I have 6 large dogs that my neighbors find frightening (because they are large.) and one trained protection dog.

I’d say I do the breeds I have a lot of Favors because when I take them out in public (including volunteering at hospitals!) we get tons of compliments. Sorry I don’t wish to advocate these dogs as being nice to my asshole neighbor.

ETA: if you don’t know my dogs personally or me, don’t tell me I’m not doing the breed any favors. Your le making assumptions you know nothing about.

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You need to get the help of other neighbors. You will have to prove it wasn’t your dogs![/QUOTE]

No No No - prosecutor has to prove it was.

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I don’t find otherwise friendly dogs that bark at people walking the fenceline when they’re in their fence and territory to be antisocial. GSDs are a protection breed.

I don’t think it’s the end of the world if a dog gets out two times[/QUOTE]

THANK YOU. My dog is as sweet and friendly as they come with both people and other dogs… But you walk onto our property and he will bark and jump like mad. He would never hurt a fly but someone trespassing wouldn’t know that… And for that I’m glad. I also find the judgement interesting after reading a recent thread about someone’s drug addict neighbor where there were many posts advising the OP to get the biggest guard dog she can find.

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THANK YOU. My dog is as sweet and friendly as they come with both people and other dogs… But you walk onto our property and he will bark and jump like mad. He would never hurt a fly but someone trespassing wouldn’t know that… And for that I’m glad. I also find the judgement interesting after reading a recent thread about someone’s drug addict neighbor where there were many posts advising the OP to get the biggest guard dog she can find.[/QUOTE]

One.
Not six

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WAnd if any of you guys are at Rolex, well you should just not go. Despite the fact that the dogs have walked around kindly in years past, they are now rabid beasts who want to kill and will probably eat you. Just stay home. I’m out to kill everyone!

And good bye[/QUOTE]

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.

And does Rolex let people (with various and sundry tastes in animals and discipline and consideration for others) bring their dogs to that event? What a bad idea.