Anyone know this left haunch brand, 7 C ?

[ILuvmyButtercups]

Hi all on this Western Forum. I’m usually on all the English ones.

I bought from a friend a lovely big Quarter Horse mare, 13 years old now, very dark bay with opposite ankle white stockings. She has a narrow stripe and snip on nose.

My friend had her originally, sold her with papers ages ago. The buyers had her for several years, and then sent all their horses back to my friend after an illness and death of one of the buyers.

Problem is, she hasn’t been able to get the papers back, they are lost. I’d LOVE to know who this sweet girl is, her bloodlines and reg. name. She is called “Bogie”, I don’t know if it’s the reg. name or a shortened nick name. My friend has, and has had so many horses over the years she simply cannot remember anything about my girl’s history, other than how she was used.

The brand is quite large, really stands out on her left quarter. 7 C

Anyone know who/where she could have come from? Thanks!!!

[Bluey]

If the previous owner you are talking to ever registered her in her name, the AQHA records will have all the horses under her name on file.

If not, well, a horse without papers on hand is just one more horse, some with a story behind them, but that can’t be verified.

If you at least have a state, there are many states with branding books and if that brand was properly registered, then it is easy to find who bred her and try starting there.

Now, on a state like TX, where each county has it’s own branding book, you can have a breeder with that brand in every county in the state, so hard to say where one comes from just by the more common brands.

If you think the mare comes from the western states, that the brand is rather large sounds like it could be either a mexican brand or an old western ranch brand, some have had good luck putting an ad in Livestock Weekly, with the brand picture and/or description:

http://www.livestockweekly.com/papers/14/10/09/index.html

You may try that and then sort thru those with that brand to narrow who the mare may come from.

[ILuvmyButtercups]

Wow, Bluey, I am so glad you saw my post! Thank you so much, I find your posts extremely helpful on the other forums. If anyone would know how to ID a brand, you sure would!

I’ll ask my friend… I know she didn’t breed her, so it’s not likely she would have registered this mare. She’s tried and tried to get the papers from the widow, but no luck so far.

Not a bigee ~ this doll has a forever home here. NO foals, either!!! The world doesn’t need any more grade horses! My friend would take her back in a New York second if for some reason I was no longer able to care for the horses. I also have it set up in my will, provisions for my horses for their lives.

I Googled the brand, and there are some links to identifying brands, but the one that had 7 C came up blank - band width expired and not renewed. Was able to ferret out a name of a likely owner/breeder John Knipping of Nebraska, but the only result on that name was an obit, with no mention of being a rancher.

OK, I’ll go to that link you provided. Whoever broke her sure did a great job. She is a real sweetheart in all ways. Super nice rider. Thanks Bluey!!!

[Bluey]

Here is a list of state brand departments, one for Nebraska may help you, if that is where you think she came from, as it is a state one:

http://www.cowboyshowcase.com/brands.html#.VDm5nChiFaU

If she came from TX, TSCRA has a state wide brand book that may have some information on that brand.

[Simkie]

Where are you?

I have the owner information for the 7C Colorado brand somewhere, I believe. If you are in Colorado, I would be happy to dig it up.

Brands are done by state, or if in Texas, by county (as Bluey mentions above.) Really tough to give you any useful info without knowing where the horse might have come from.

[Bluey]

There are many horses called “Bogie” all over.
Many of certain famous lines in reining even have some similar names, may check in that direction, since you say she is extremely well trained, reiners are.

[furlong47]

@ILuvmyButtercups;7801109

I Googled the brand, and there are some links to identifying brands, but the one that had 7 C came up blank - band width expired and not renewed. Was able to ferret out a name of a likely owner/breeder John Knipping of Nebraska, but the only result on that name was an obit, with no mention of being a rancher.

On Google searches if you click the little green down arrow at the end of each result’s URL, you can access a cached copy of the page. In this case the images still don’t work but the other stuff does. This page says

7C

Brand on Left hip

Melissa Clement
Oklahoma

[Bluey]

[QUOTE=furlong47;7801313]
On Google searches if you click the little green down arrow at the end of each result’s URL, you can access a cached copy of the page. In this case the images still don’t work but the other stuff does. This page says

7C

Brand on Left hip

Melissa Clement
Oklahoma[/QUOTE]

That one I think is Dr Melissa Clement, Lighting C ranch.
She is a dermatologist in OKC, OK

[ILuvmyButtercups]

Wow, thanks!!! I am in Loudoun County, Virginia. This brand is very well done, not carved or “drawn”. It’s unquestionably stamped. Well applied, too. No scars, burns, lumps. Just clean white hairs, uniform. Someone knew what they were doing.

Anyway, should I try to contact Dr. Melissa Clement? I could send her pics of this sweet mare. She’s very distinctive in her appearence. I don’t care if I never get papers, I’m just curious about her origins, maybe find out who her daddy and dam were. That’d be cool. Thanks so much guys!!

[Simkie]

Do you know, or suspect, that the horse came from OK?

Because the same brand is owned by someone different in CO and NE, and several other states, I would think.

[ILuvmyButtercups]

Simkie ~ I’m just guessing it’s OK. I did find Dr. Clement’s practice in OK, with contact info. I’ll just write her, at that office. What the heck, it can go or no, right?

The woman I bought the mare from has for decades, a very busy and highly regarded boarding/training barn. So many horses have gone through her facility it’s difficult for her to remember even many of them. I wish this horse had raced, then I’d have a lip tattoo. Oh well.

I guess the only real way to track down her origins is to find and communicate with every rancher who used this brand, givng a thorough description with pics of the horse and then hope one of them recognizes her. Can’t hurt to try, and might be fun, solving the mystery.

[ILuvmyButtercups]

Bluey, I don’t belong to the AQHA, so I have no access to pedigrees in detail. I know Allpedigree.com is a great free source, but I need reg. names.

How could I get a list of famous reiner QHs? That would be a needle in the haystack, but she’s only 13, so it’s possible the stallion is still standing, and maybe I could look up his progeny record, a likely name would jump out. Like on the list there would be “bay or brown filly, 2001”. Ya never know, worth a shot.

[goodhors]

Something else, is with brand being totally white, horse was likely freeze branded, rather than hot branded.

Hot brand leaves the hair growth still the same color as the coat of horse, not white.

Just another point to list of things in horse description, owner’s choices in way of branding horse.

[Bluey]

[QUOTE=ILuvmyButtercups;7803401]
Bluey, I don’t belong to the AQHA, so I have no access to pedigrees in detail. I know Allpedigree.com is a great free source, but I need reg. names.

How could I get a list of famous reiner QHs? That would be a needle in the haystack, but she’s only 13, so it’s possible the stallion is still standing, and maybe I could look up his progeny record, a likely name would jump out. Like on the list there would be “bay or brown filly, 2001”. Ya never know, worth a shot.[/QUOTE]

Here is one reiner that had many foals called Boogie:

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/boggies+flashy+jac

We had one of his foals that was a wonderful horse and very talented reiner.

If you want to learn more about reiners, google is your friends, they are all over the place.

The NRHA and AQHA also have plenty of stories on the better known ones.