Anyone make their own "portable" stalls?

[OTTBs]

It’s been said many times that horse barns aren’t appraised at much and that having removable stalls is a good thing. So has anyone made their own portable/removable stalls? The ready made ones are so costly. I figure I must be able to line the barn walls with wood, then connect the stall sides to that somehow, then connect the fronts to the sides. I don’t know if the makers of portable stalls would sell the connector pieces by themselves? I did see some bad/dangerous connections in a vinyl temp stall that my horse stayed in, so I want something safe.

Seems it would be a bonus not to have to dig holes for posts, especially if you happen to be putting stalls in a barn in January like I will be.

[Simkie]

I’d be shocked if all companies don’t sell their connectors. Different people have different configurations, so it doesn’t make sense at all to bundle them with the stall pieces.

Priefert has a couple different kind of connectors–one set for their old stall pieces, and one for the new. The old ones look like this:

Connector for three stall pieces together

Connector for one stall piece to the wall

Connector for two stall pieces to the wall

Plus others, depending on what you need. They slip into the tubular steel that make up the stall panels.

The newer Priefert stall connectors are just a plate with a metal loop, because the new stall pieces operate on more of a drop pin configuration. I can’t find a pic online, but it’s easy to visualize, I think if you look at their new stall fronts. Oh–here it is. It’s the small piece at the top of this picture.

I don’t know how you’d build your own. We bought used Priefert pieces, though, for about half what they cost new. Might be worth keeping an eye out for something like that?

[Bluey]

[QUOTE=OTTBs;8392788]
It’s been said many times that horse barns aren’t appraised at much and that having removable stalls is a good thing. So has anyone made their own portable/removable stalls? The ready made ones are so costly. I figure I must be able to line the barn walls with wood, then connect the stall sides to that somehow, then connect the fronts to the sides. I don’t know if the makers of portable stalls would sell the connector pieces by themselves? I did see some bad/dangerous connections in a vinyl temp stall that my horse stayed in, so I want something safe.

Seems it would be a bonus not to have to dig holes for posts, especially if you happen to be putting stalls in a barn in January like I will be.[/QUOTE]

We make our own stalls and over the years have changed them and where we put them and how we configure them, as we need.
We connect them with pins.
The ones we have now are three stalls, about 14’ x 14’, a few inches short of that, to fit a 40’ space.
We made 12’ x 12’ for another barn first, out of sheet metal bottoms and expanded metal tops.
We don’t like at all the vertical bars, have seen and heard of too many horses playing and sticking a foot thru those and hanging there.
That can happen with horizontal bars, but they seem to most get their feet back out themselves there.
Not sure what we will use on our next ones, maybe more horizontal bars, or the 2" crosshatch mesh welded wire and 16’ x 12’ or 14’, not sure yet.
Still thinking about it.

You can see first picture the old stalls above, the new ones below.
Second picture where we remodeled to add one more bar, they were almost getting their heads thru the wider spaced bars we made first and we changed the solid stall sides to bars, because some horses kept running outside to see where the other horses were when they could not see them from the stalls.
Horses seem happier when they can see others there.
I think we will make the next stall divisions out of 1/4 or 1/3 solid where they can eat in peace and the rest of the side walls solid at the bottom only, where they can see other horses thru them and also helps with airflow.
Airflow is not so important in our very open barn and in our windy country.

We built our own barns and as all purpose barns, then make the stalls portable, so we can change as needed.
The second picture we had expanded that overhang, twice and moved the stall line back once, giving us a large space in front to work with horses in inclement weather, like a mini round pen.

[Hermein]

You could attach plywood (3/4") or 2" planks to the inside of pipe panels with half-round metal connectors that I’ve seen holding pipe to walls. They have a name, but I don’t know it.

[clanter]

Our panels are steel framed (1 by 2 tube if I remember correctly , it was 24 years ago) we made our own connector plates that were identical to the “manufactured” plates… the plates were either L or T with two vertical pins on each leg that allowed the panel to set onto the pins. A alike plate was used on the top to connect he panels (Ls for single stall corners/ Ts for connecting stalls… we had no back to backs if there are such just use an X plate )

and yes our “barn” appraised at half the value of the same structure being appraised as a garage as we had designed the building to be either with the proper headers and jambs in place to take out wall and insert garage doors

As our real estate advisor said (at least in our area) more people want extra garages than barns … we are in an area that is hot rod capital of Texas

[Simkie]

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You could attach plywood (3/4") or 2" planks to the inside of pipe panels with half-round metal connectors that I’ve seen holding pipe to walls. They have a name, but I don’t know it.[/QUOTE]

Holding pipe to walls…pipe straps?

http://www.grainger.com/category/pipe-straps/pipe-and-tubing-accessories/pipe-tubing-and-fittings/plumbing/ecatalog/N-qvb

[Hermein]

I got a danger notice from google when I tried to go to the grainger site, Simkie. ???

Anyhow, what I mean is a piece of metal that looks like a “C” with a short straight flat piece with attachment holes on either end of the open sides.

[Simkie]

I get no warning.

I think what you’re talking about are pipe straps. Google it since my link doesn’t work for you.

[Bluey]

Here are some of those straps for pipes to wood or metal:

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=google&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&gws_rd=ssl#q=conduit+bolt+on+straps+and+clamps&tbm=shop

We attached the end fronts to the 3/4" plywood lining the barn walls with a long angle iron piece screwed on the plywood, that we bolted the stall front to.

[moving_to_dc]

[QUOTE=Hermein;8393043]
Anyhow, what I mean is a piece of metal that looks like a “C” with a short straight flat piece with attachment holes on either end of the open sides.[/QUOTE]

U-bolts?

[clanter]

[QUOTE=Hermein;8393043]
I got a danger notice from google when I tried to go to the grainger site, Simkie. ???

Anyhow, what I mean is a piece of metal that looks like a “C” with a short straight flat piece with attachment holes on either end of the open sides.[/QUOTE]

a metal shop with a brake made our C channels … $7.50 each

[OTTBs]

[QUOTE=Hermein;8392994]
You could attach plywood (3/4") or 2" planks to the inside of pipe panels with half-round metal connectors that I’ve seen holding pipe to walls. They have a name, but I don’t know it.[/QUOTE]What I’m trying to do is make full height, regular stalls without having to dig post holes–with the bonus of possibly making the building worth more since the stalls are removable.

[OTTBs]

[QUOTE=Simkie;8392811]
I’d be shocked if all companies don’t sell their connectors. Different people have different configurations, so it doesn’t make sense at all to bundle them with the stall pieces.[/QUOTE]Yet even Priefert doesn’t seem to sell the connectors, at least on their website. I can kind of envision using their connectors to do what I’m thinking. The thing is (regarded the 3 connectors you linked to) I need BOTH sides of the connection, the stall end as well as the connector. Though I just thought of this: I could use pipe straps as both ends and slip a pipe through. Not sure how that would work at a 3-way connection, and at the rear of the stall there’d be a gap between walls unless I use an 8’ pipe for the whole length.

I could use some close up photos of the connectors Bluey and Clanter are talking about.

I will keep an eye on Craigslist for used stall parts too. Someone around here has been selling wood temporary stalls, but they’re 9x9. May pick up some for extra stalls/initial stalls until I figure out how to build my 12x12 stalls. My original thought for connectors was gate straps–I think that’s what holds the wood temp stalls together.

[Simkie]

[QUOTE=OTTBs;8394937]
Yet even Priefert doesn’t seem to sell the connectors, at least on their website. I can kind of envision using their connectors to do what I’m thinking. The thing is (regarded the 3 connectors you linked to) I need BOTH sides of the connection, the stall end as well as the connector. Though I just thought of this: I could use pipe straps as both ends and slip a pipe through. Not sure how that would work at a 3-way connection, and at the rear of the stall there’d be a gap between walls unless I use an 8’ pipe for the whole length[/QUOTE]

Priefert actually doesn’t sell ANYTHING via their website. But they will happily sell you their connectors if you pick up the phone and call them, and they are available online from various resellers. Or where you can buy Priefert stuff.

They do show their current connectors on their site–the last pic I linked with the “new” connectors is from the Priefert site–and they sell both sides of it. You can see the pin side in that pic. They sell the old stuff, too.

You can’t buy the “other” side of the old style connector, because it makes up the frame of the stall panel. You could likely find some tubular metal and get creative, were you so inclined. I think you’re looking at a lot of “get creative” with this project.

[echodecker]

Tartar sells connectors like that…for their dog kennels…about 3 or 4 dollars each. Very heavy duty and we got carriage bolts washers and nuts at Lowe’s. Easy to attach 3/4 inch plywood to roynd pen panels with them. …