anyone used Smartpak's circulate on Navicular

Vet has confirmed “classic navicular due to conformation” have tried almost every treatment so please no suggestions just your experience with circulate if horse has been confirmed with navicular bone being in laymen’s terms “too thick and at the wrong angle” Thanks

Googled the supplement and it is a blend of “said to be” antii-inflammatory herbs, vitamin E. Vitman C, amino acids,and a pancreatic enzyme for digestion. I guess my question would be, what have you already tried? IME there is a lot of overlap between the ingredients of different brands of supplements, so if you have already been supplementing let’s say with lots of Vitamin E or lots of turmeric or lots of boswellia, then you can figure those ingredients haven’t been helping.

I don’t see anything in this supplement that would be a magic bullet for a horse whose problems are structural. It might or might not reduce inflammation somewhat,

I don’t see how it is going to improve “hoof circulation.”

I did, for several months. No improvement that was drastically noticable, but when you are dealing with navicular you are usually trying a bunch of things at once, so it’s hard to narrow down which is making the most difference. At the time, she had wedged shoes with soft pour ins, and frequent body work, along with Osphos. Never could save her to be sound enough for barrel racing again. But, yes, to answer your question, I used that supp for months.

Thanks @Scribbler coffin joint injections, navicular bursa injections, osphos, RRRrrrreeaalllly fancy corrective shoeing not just a navicular shoe but also the pad is cut out under the navicular joint to relieve pressure, Equioxx every other day helped for a few months…everday made her act “unenthused about life” and no less lame so figure she was feeling systemic side effects. Sssssooo neurectomy is pretty much all that is left on the list of possible treatments.

thanks @cnd8…I also used it in the past and noticed some improvement but again there were some other factors, just haven’t used it when there are actual changes to the navicular bone.

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I was looking at your other navicular thread to see what your horses diagnosis is before I replied there and came across this. My horse was diagnosed with caudal heel pain (his navicular bone looks like Swiss cheese) but had severe soft tissue involvement.

His current supplements are AniMed Remission and Platinum Performance Equine Wellness. He also gets daily Equioxx and it appears will need Osphos every 6 months (horse is a 17 year old Paint, we’ve done 2 rounds of Osphos so far). He is sound WTC and started back jumping about 3 weeks ago.

When we first ventured down this road about a year and a half ago, I tried Isoxsuprine for 2 months with no change in soundness or comfort (likely as we hadn’t found and addressed the underlying soft tissue issues). It’s inexpensive to try if you haven’t used it yet!

Thanks @painthunter

My mare is on it, and I do notice a difference. However, we are not sure whether last year’s hoof issues were due to navicular issues, or bad farrier work. She had her coffin joints injected, and later Osphos, as part of last year’s treatments. In both cases she improved for a short time, but the effects didn’t last.

She is doing so much better with better farrier work (among other things, going up 2 shoe sizes and bringing her heels down – her hooves were much too upright before.) But I have kept her on SmartHoof Circulate.