I recently sold a 2 year old gelding, but have several ponies left for sale. I seem to have an easier time selling youngsters than those well started U/S and even ready to show. Ugh. I need to find a relationship with a hunter trainer that can help me get my ponies into good show homes.
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I get probaby 2-4 enquiries a month for Anglo Arabian foals by my stallion, but there are none left to sell so I am now looking at buying an Arab mare to produce at least one a year.
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Hey Donna, an Anglo need be just 25% Arab, so maybe buy an Anglo mare instead? They usually result in much better Anglo foals than the F1’s out of purebred Arab mares. It was an F2 palomino Anglo gelding (TB sire x Anglo Arab dam) that I sold to the Royal family of the UAE (Dubai). Heck, you could even buy a palomino Anglo mare to make the first cremello Anglos!
Hey Donna, an Anglo need be just 25% Arab, so maybe buy an Anglo mare instead? They usually result in much better Anglo foals than the F1’s out of purebred Arab mares. It was an F2 palomino Anglo gelding (TB sire x Anglo Arab dam) that I sold to the Royal family of the UAE (Dubai). Heck, you could even buy a palomino Anglo mare to make the first cremello Anglos!
Really Laura??? I didnt know that! I thought it had to be 50/50 and I had no idea there were no cremello Anglo’s out there!
Hmmm … now you have me REALLY thinking and re-thinking what direction I need to go on this …
This thread would be more helpful if the sellers said the price ranges of the horses they’ve sold. That may be the differences!!
I just sold a lovely two year old, but he was a freak of perfection!!!
Absolutely perfect and gorgeous…
I have a five year old mare who just won ten out of ten classes in Atlanta, Champion of both divisions…16.2 and lovely…and still for sale???
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Not breeding stock, but this horse sold for full asking price, pending PPE, after being on the market for 5 days.
But, then, unfortunately, PPE ended in 2 minutes with a diagnosis of atrial fibrillation. :eek: 
However…it was 5 days, & was full asking price. Shocker of a PPE, for sure.[/QUOTE]
Grabby hands!! I want! Sadly, not in the market for another horse.
But they could make a pair!
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j57/atrueeventer/fancy.jpg
And I looked up your guy’s sire, and he’s only 30 minutes away from me in the next town!
Nothing else to add… Sorry for the interruption…
/slinks away
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I have a five year old mare who just won ten out of ten classes in Atlanta, Champion of both divisions…16.2 and lovely…and still for sale???[/QUOTE]
Wow, congrats!! That is very impressive. Who was the rider?
I sold all my “for sale” horses by April. Just now gearing up to put up ads for my 2011 Schroeder/Weltmeyer/Bolero filly and my coming 2yr old Rosenthal filly o/o my Rubinstein granddaughter. She is SO lovely, and was suppose to be a keeper, but her dam is still young, I also breed her “aunt” (dam of the Schroeder filly), and I have a Teke mare I will breed from time to time.
So that’s plenty for me – 3 foals per year max. So Rosalina can go be someone else’s darling…:sadsmile:
I guess my last two years have been out of the ordinary. Last year was my best year to date in sales and this year - although starting later than last is proving to be a good one as well. In the last three weeks I have sold 3 horses: a six year old, a five year old and now a yearling. I have another client waiting to try a three year old once started and another seriously interested in another three year old. What people are looking for - quality, ridability. If you are selling now or getting interest - get used to people giving you some obscene offers. What some try to offer these days can be downright insulting, but, you just have to smile and say no thank you. Many are just trying to gauge how much you want to sell. Everyone wants to feel like they have gotten the best deal these days - getting asking price these days is kind of unheard of. I do think you have to be realistic on pricing as the prices are not what they were 3 or 4 years ago.
Why do I think I may be having more success than others? I have quite a few horses available to see and try which makes traveling to see a horse much more cost effective. WI, also has many really good breeders which helps draw buyers to our area. We have 6 or 7 quality breeders within 2 hours of each other.
On Saturday we sent a yearling filly to her new home in Tampa with a wonderful new owner…we receive many inquiries about the 2011 foals and lots of traffic on our website. July has customarily been a good month for sales and then again in October. One interested buyer is coming to visit later in the summer to see our “collection.” The sole colt this year was sold in utero and we never are sorry to retain the fillies if need be.Our energies right now are all directed to the “Open House” next Saturday- “The Spring Social and Young Horse Expo”. http://www.facebook.com/home.php While not a sale, it is always nice to put all the horses out in front of the public, all shiny and clean!
We were just saying a few days ago that a good strategy might be to retain fillies as a matter of course until they are two or three to assess them and decide if they are a useful addition to our breeding program.
For me this has been Annus Horribilis for tons of elaborate Tyre Kickers. So frustrating and time consuming as you have to treat each enquiry seriously - at first, anyway.
I really want to move two of my 2yo jumper youngsters and a 10yo kick-along old faithful backyard gelding in order to afford a good dressage broodmare. Who’da thunk it would be this difficult…:no:
Our one foal for 2011 - Joy’s Zirocco Blue colt was sold quickly to a very exciting home. I only have a few horses for sale, but I have had a big jump in the number of inquiries the last month or two.
We bred our Zarr three year old Izabelle for a 2012 foal. She is WTC-ing under saddle very nicely and we will do a little bit more with her. And I still have a gorgeous 2 year old filly by Westporte - Sophie will be bred next year as well, if not sold before hand. I really love having fillies, so we can breed them as three year olds (before they start their show career and are sold) and continue my older show mares’ lines.
Have to say, I blame myself. I currently have all riding horses for sale. I have an extremely talented mare that had a foal two years ago, brought her back-she won every dressage show she was in last year, high score for all but one and was reserve high score at that one. This mare should really be a jumper (don’t have those connections) so I bore her with dressage. Someone came to see her yesterday and said “your video does not do this mare justice, do yourself a favor and take it off of your web site”. Was planning to do a new video of her and another mare two weeks ago, got to the indoor and wham-my camera fell apart in my hands…no video. So, I need to get back to it again and show my horses in the best possible light. In years gone by I had people come without ever seeing a video and buy then and there, I was spoiled.
As much as I hate reading threads about “sellers” I have also been a buyer and know how others must feel when they don’t have anything to look at that inspires them, that said-I despise looking at youtube videos and think they do nothing to enhance a horse’s chances of being purchased-I understand seeing something before flying to try it, but I am sure many horses have been passed over because of a youtube video…(I thought Totillas looked choppy-if he did then hmm, what does that do to the rest of them??).
I agree with Florida Foxhunter…I am interested in the prices being realized for sale horses. In my case, especially 2 y.o.s . I am presently breaking and backing two and want to sell them if possible. I have usually sold my horses after I have made them, but at my age, I would like just to keep the one I have made and sell the young ones after they are started. Please share prices…I need help in pricing mine. both are 16 h,they are a June 15 and a July 15 foals of 2009, nice movers, showing great jump;ing form in a chute…quiet, and very fancy with 4 whites and white on faces…black dots on the white. I have the sire on the farm…he is gelded now…so a prospective buyer can see the “finished product” by looking at him. I just need to know what is a sensible price to put on them. Any help will be appreciated.
connemaras are selling!
I’ve sold two purebreds in the last month, a 2011 filly and a 3 y/o gelding that was just started u/s. I’ve also had numerous inquiries on my other 2011 filly, who is not for sale.
Well . . . yes and no. I have sold two horses in the last couple of months. One was a middle aged open broodmare, not sound but a highly decorated mare. I had her priced pretty reasonably (the same amount I paid for her 1.5 years ago) and she sold immediately. The other was a cute but not spectacular 4 year old riding mare. I had her advertised for a year with no bites and I eventually sold her for half her original asking price (basically sold her as a ready to show 4 year old for the same amount I paid for her as an untouched 2 year old. That hurt!) I just listed another highly decorated pregnant broodmare for a good sum of money a week ago and had a number of inquiries right away and am now in the process of negotiating a sale. Foals . . .that’s another story. I have never been able to sell one. I had a two inquiries about my 2011 Dacaprio filly when she was just born, but neither of them materialized into anything and no further inquiries. Not much action on my 2010 filly either. I might be being barn blind, but I think they are nice fillies, beautifully bred and priced several thousand lower than foals of similar bloodlines, so I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong. It’s really made me change my perspective on my breeding goals. My original plan was to breed 2-3 foals a year for sale, but now I am cutting back and aiming more for 1 foal a year, or every other year, with the idea that I will probably not be able to sell them until they under saddle and showing. High quality horses with a good show record and ammie friendly temperaments seem to be what people want (and they want them for $8500 :eek:0)
Just sold a TB. broodmare in for 7 grand!. Really nice mare.
My horses typically are priced from 15K to 20K until 3. I have two fancy 2 year olds in that range and have had a number of inquiries without much marketing.
Once started under saddle and going nicely WTC (solid enough to put someone else on - a pro or v. good amateur) - the same horse would typically start at 40K. I have a very fancy 4 year old that is started, nice gaits, needs a good rider, excellent pedigree, and she is 45.
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I am curious about this too. Are sellers needing to adjust their pricing because of the market?
Like it or not, I have. I used to sell my foals without any problems, no negotiating-always got asking price. From my perspective, I think it is much harder to sell them than it used to be and most people only think about the price-it is the reason I stopped breeding. Obviously YL would argue the point based on her pricing, good for her if that is working.
Years ago I would ask $25K for a just started 3 year old and that is not what I see or hear these days, I have an incredible FEI young horse priced there, in training with a professional who has been showing his dam and getting 77% with 10’s and no bites (again I blame my web site) but from everyone I have spoken to-lots selling under $10K or over $50K, not much in between (yes-riding horses, not foals).
People always look for good value, regardless of the market. I do not think my program is exempt from that and I don’t know why you would throw an elbow at me.
Years ago I would ask $25K for a just started 3 year old and that is not what I see or hear these days, I have an incredible FEI young horse priced there, in training with a professional who has been showing his dam and getting 77% with 10’s and no bites
Is the horse showing in the FEI young horse division? His dam is scoring 77 but what about him?
Regarding the 4 year old I mentioned, the price was determined by her trainers who have a good deal more expertise than I do and they think that is very reasonable for her quality and aptitude.
