Apple Cider Vinegar - is it really that great?

[RodeoHunter]

[QUOTE=Bluey;5950778]
Then, that something works on trush or some skin problems may be a red herring, because cleanliness and time also work, if you don’t use anything.

Sure, using some products will speed the process, maybe, but that trush went away is not a proof that whatever we used made it go away.

It sure would be easy if there was a linear, clear and simple cause and effect with all biological processes.

Not directed at the poster quoted, but I am surprised to see some posters still holding on the same pseudoscience, when that was debunked long ago, when those same topics were discussed.:no:

This may be appropriate here, thanks to CBS morning news:

Apophenia:

“Apophenia is the experience of seeing meaningful patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia[/QUOTE]

Okay how on earth did a thread about ACV turn so philosophical. Without getting technical (because I don’t think I can keep up with the posters above)…

Regular cleaning = thrush
Regular cleaning + expensive anti-thrush products = thrush
Regular cleaning + ACV = no thrush

I think I will keep using my apophenic ACV. Its cause-and-effect-iness is enough for me. :lol:

[deltawave]

Thrush beasties probably do not thrive in an acidic milieu. Nor in a very basic one, as I’ve used straight bleach on occasional thrush spots for years with 100% success. :lol:

Basically a huge change in pH is upsetting to most organisms.

The really egghead thing to do would be to treat all four hooves with something different and see what helped the most.

[hunterjumpertj]

I absolutely LOVE ACV! I used to spend so much 💰 on the poisonous fly spray but (a) it was expensive & poisonous; (b) it didn’t last very long and my horse was going crazy; © it had ZERO HEALTH VALUE. So I started working at this barn where there were 5-8 horses and not ONE fly anywhere!! I now use it on my dog, myself and family .It’s safe, has healing powers for the digestive tract, and SO must more-no more flies or fleas,ect.

[Bluey]

Zombie thread warning.

[Ghazzu]

@Bluey

Zombie thread warning.

And gratuitious quackery, as well.

[Scribbler]

Yeah, I was expecting a link to something, either ACV in pill form or fake passports or something.

[SuzieQNutter]

We used to feed a capful to keep away bot flies and was told that it would increase appetite.

[RoughOut]

@Bluey

Zombie thread warning.

Thanks! I got through all of that and then saw the “poison” post and was racking my brain. Glad you caught it

[JB]

@SuzieQNutter

We used to feed a capful to keep away bot flies and was told that it would increase appetite.

A whole capful? How is it even possible to make any difference in the exterior taste to any bug with such a small amount for such a big animal? It can’t.

Might it make food taste good for some horses? I’m sure it could - some horses really love it, while others hate it.

[SuzieQNutter]

I was a kid. It may have been more than a capful. No bot flies out here so I no longer feed it.

[DiamondJubilee]

I take 3 tbsp of this daily as I eat a lot of protein (special diet for bodybuilding) and its a great liver flush. I never heard that it increases appetite though! I hope not lol!

It does have a stong odour and taste. I would think it would be hard to feed to horses and would think they would need quite a bit of it.

I love the taste and can eat it by the spoonful, but I add it into my salad dressing and take it that way.

[RedHorses]

In this neck of the woods we get blackflies for 10-14 days to start off bug season. The horses are still in the process of shedding and are starting to nibble on the early grass. This combination creates a wrinkle across the horses’ chests, making the hair stick straight up from the skin. The blackflies use this for easy access to the skin and the horses all end up with a swollen welt from the bites.

I had a horse who was very attractive to flies of all kinds and he would get two or three welts from the blackflies. If I started giving him about 60cc of ACV (regular old Heinz) at least two weeks prior to the blackflies arrival he would get one welt like all the other horses. You know the saying “once is chance, twice is coincidence, three times is conspiracy”? We got way beyond conspiracy.

This suggests ACV provides a reduced attractiveness to flies, but the effect would be less noticeable on horses less attractive naturally, and likely entirely useless if the whole herd was getting ACV. I have noticed my fly repellent is more effective when I am using a product that is different from what the other horse owners are putting on their horses.

[Ghazzu]

@DiamondJubilee

I take 3 tbsp of this daily as I eat a lot of protein (special diet for bodybuilding) and its a great liver flush. I never heard that it increases appetite though! I hope not lol!

It does have a stong odour and taste. I would think it would be hard to feed to horses and would think they would need quite a bit of it.

I love the taste and can eat it by the spoonful, but I add it into my salad dressing and take it that way.

Define “liver flush”.
Then explain how ACV accomplishes this.

[DiamondJubilee]

@Ghazzu - Sure! This is recent article, which of course you must always take with a grain of salt, but I have been told this in person by personal trainers and nutritionists as well. I find I love the taste and it has benifited me, so I keep it in my current diet.

Not sure if the flies will hate me more this summer though as I’ve just started my training during the winter This year will be the test lol!

https://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-3598/7-Reasons-to-Love-Apple-Cider-Vinegar.html

https://www.popeyescanada.com/bragg_apple_cider_vinegar_473ml.html

[Ghazzu]

While I enjoy the taste of ACV as much as the next person, the two pieces cited above don’t even rise to the level of pseudoscience.
They’re just nonsense.

[Palm_Beach]

@Bluey

Apophenia:

“Apophenia is the experience of seeing meaningful patterns or connections in random or meaningless data.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

So we can call this whole thread Applephenia.