Arabian Saddlebred cross future stud ideas

[erinesargent]

I have come to the realization I don’t have any great conformational shots of my mare…

I am looking to breed my mare several years from now, I thought I would get some outside input on studs that might compliment her

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/saf+oh+so+famous

Sophie is 15.1 and fairly petite, the only thing I don’t like about her conformationally is her narrow shoulders which I believe is common to Saddlebreds. In a stud I am looking to add size and of course a wonderful personality to match hers. I am breeding for a hunt seat prospect.

Just thought this would be a fun way to get some new ideas-so have at it

[FatDinah]

My sister has bred two foals from a saddlebred mare and this stallion, Baskghazi.

http://smokymountainparkarabians.com/arabian-stallion-baskghazi-article.html

She really, really loves them both. She says they are both very trainable (a coming 3 yr old and a 5 yr old). Both are pretty tall, too.

[Jmarcan]

I would look around for a purebred race-bred Arab stallion with French bloodlines…Not ultratypey but generally more huntery than most purebred lines…and registrable…my current heart throb is a Dormane son named Norphe…

[Scaramouch]

If I had an Arab cross mare, I would definitely look into a French Anglo-Arab like Bonaparte:

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10551822

[erinesargent]

[QUOTE=Scaramouch;8447266]
If I had an Arab cross mare, I would definitely look into a French Anglo-Arab like Bonaparte:

http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?i=10551822[/QUOTE]

I am really interested in anglos! Also shagya or polish bred arabs. My favorite stud is an anglo but I think his stud fee is going up to $2000 this year

[Anne]

@erinesargent;8446580

I am looking to breed my mare several years from now, I thought I would get some outside input on studs that might compliment her :)[/QUOTE]

A stud is a place where horses are kept. A stallion is a mature male horse.

[QUOTE=erinesargent;8446580]I am not very competitive so the stud does not need to be the best in the business. I am not overly concerned about being able to register the foal especially since I know breeding to another Arab would limit my size and Arab shows are pretty much nil in my area.

Keep in mind that when you breed a horse, you are creating a new life. You should feel a responsibility to make the best horse you can, to give it the best prospects in life, throughout its life, that you can. If you’re breeding a horse for yourself, that’s fine, but what happens if your circumstances change and you need to sell the horse? If you think you’ll save money by breeding to a less well known or less talented stallion, be aware that the stud fee is the least expensive part of the endeavor. What if the mare has a dystocia or needs a Caesarian section? Breed to the best stallion you can, and breed to something that will allow you to register the foal. I am no longer as familiar with NSH rules as I once was, but if the mare is 50/50, I believe you could breed her to a purebred Arab, a purebred saddlebred, or another stallion who is 50/50 and still register the foal NSH. I have no idea if 50/50 NSH stallions are out there, or if people prefer the F1 cross.

[erinesargent]

Thank you for your input but it wasn’t really pertinent to my post.

[vineyridge]

one nice thing about the saddlebred-Arab cross (National Sport Horse) is that it is eligible for all sorts of special breed shows, points, and awards.

[erinesargent]

NSH shows are nonexistent here. I’m in total QH country

[Scaramouch]

[QUOTE=erinesargent;8447582]
Thank you for your input but it wasn’t really pertinent to my post.[/QUOTE]

Well kind of. Here’s fair warning that the prevailing attitude on this forum is “breed the best to the best” and the stud fee is the cheapest part of breeding. If you start off with the attitude that you don’t need the stallion to be “the best in the business” and that the price of the stud fee (especially when $2,000 is not outrageous for a quality stallion) is a make-or-break issue, you’re going to get a lecture.

[erinesargent]

I am of course not planning on breeding my mare to Jimmy next door. I am just looking for ideas for several years from now.

[ASB_Stars]

[QUOTE=Anne;8447444]
A stud is a place where horses are kept. A stallion is a mature male horse[/QUOTE]

Generally, a stallion is an entire male horse who has not been used for breeding. A stud is a horse who has.

The Color of Fame was used a whole lot to produce National Show Horses. His damsire- Commander’s Cadence was a fun, well bred gaited horse with a lovely temperament. Honestly, I’ve seen as many narrow Arabians- of every kind- Egyptian, Polish, etc. that also come up narrow. I am not sure if it came from the ASB sire.

I’d look for a big built ASB, or <<shock>> a Dutch Harness horse cross with ASB, for your mare. This cross has resulted in some awesome horses who have excelled in the show ring, but also some amazing dressage types.

I have two ASB studs here (they have both been sires) who are retired from breeding. Both of them look like little warmbloods- broad with a ton of bone and great movement. They are out there- take a look around!