Area Sand Redo :(

  1. What is your discipline?
  2. How big is your arena?
  3. How much arena sand did you put in it?

We had someone come refurb our arena, and he wound up practically taking it to the base. While it wasn’t what we asked and my SO isn’t pleased, we do both realize he likely HAD to do it because of the vegetation growth and attempt at leveling… Anyway, that’s not the point.

The point is - we have to put some footing back into our arena. Obviously, different disciplines have different needs, but I just want a general ball park because when I run the amount numbers they seem insane. :sweat_smile:

Standard dressage arena - 20x60 meters with about a 1 meter band of sand all around the perimeter, adding 4 inches of sand footing, so a 22x62 meter arena.

Converting to feet/ inches, with liberal rounding to make calculations simple for me. 13,000 square feet, 4 inches of footing will require about 4300 cubic feet, or 160 cubic yards of sand (or other footing of your choice).

A dump truck will hold around 10 to 16 cubic yards of material. The limitation is the weight of the material when loading the truck. My supplier delivers about10 cubic yards of sand in a loaded to capacity (by weight) truck.

So my dressage arena took 16 dump truck loads of sand. That amount may sound insane, but the numbers don’t lie. The type of arena sand I needed is not sourced locally and is picked up and hauled from a quarry about 60 miles away. With mileage fees included the bottom line was about $1,000 per truckload, or $16,000 total. Hopefully you live close to a sand source and your hauling fees will be much less than mine were.

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Hunter/jumper very low jumps.

Arena (outdoor) is 210 x 115.

Granite sand (angular and manufactured). I put in 2 inches to start. You can always add as it compacts. I do not drag it very deep. Where it meets my 1/4" minus base, the sand and base have formed an interface, which I love. I have added sand over its four year life.

If you go too deep, you will have suspensory and other soft tissue problems. Better to start a little thin, assuming your base is nice, than too deep. Even 2" will be a little fluffy at first.

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Thank you for this.
This is exactly what I needed to hear/see!

I guess my calculations weren’t totally wrong and the amount of sand I’m going to need is actually insane :sob:

I did get a good price on loads of screened arena sand delivered at $315, which seems incredibly reasonable, especially hearing your cost since you had to truck it in from further away.

Thank you! I sold my jumpers and converted to the other side & now have a little reined cow horse, so I’ve got to have it deep enough to stop. We’re looking at adding an additional 2" to it and starting there.

Our arena is 160x300, so I’m just shocked at how much sand it’s going to take to get it back to where we had it last year.

When you have added sand in the past, did you just add a truck load or two here and there?

SO is going to call Keiser today to talk to them about re-doing the refurb (original guy won’t call us back… :slight_smile:) and get them out for a quote on what they think we need to do. I should have just called them in the first place.

We have a short court dressage arena (20 x 40 meters); don’t keep it as deep as for reining horses. When we’ve added sand over the years, it’s been a truck load or two. There are quite a few quarries around here, therefore not hauling in from a great distance.

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2 inches to start. I found 3 to be wayyyyy to much until 3 yeaes later when it became not enough. It never ends.

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You’re probably looking at 550-600 ton.

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I have a 725x200 ring for dressage. I aimed for 3 inches of sand and ended up (trucking miscommunication) with a little more than that. It got applied unevenly so one end is definitely deeper than the other end. I’m still trying to fix it but am coming to the realization that I probably need help to do so, but I digress.

In any case, my deeper end is deeper than I would like. Because it’s uneven, the deep end is probably closer to 4 inches.

I used “fine equestrian sand,” also called “infield sand” by my supplier (MA). It’s basically fine silica sand, but all natural, not manufactured. Definitely finer than masonry sand. I can’t seem to find my spreadsheet with costs, but I want to say it was around $6k total. The supplier had to use the smaller of their trucks, so trucking would have been less expensive if they could have used their bigger trucks.

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when getting truck loads of product require Haul Tickets so you will know just how much material you actually received, in today’s world also set up a camera to record the arrival of the trucks

Each load will be scaled if coming from a quarry

On construction sites this is common practice to verify billing

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Our indoor, if yours is outside that may make a difference, is 120’ x 250’, 20’ on one end roping boxes, so 230’ riding area.
Has been used mostly for young ranch horses, roping, reining and working cow horse, along with some 4H and Little Britches all around training.

Base was wetted and compacted with pure topsoil and footing itself triple washed finer sand.
That sand would be too fine for outdoors, it would blow away in our windy country.
We train many young horses, footing needs to be shallow so they don’t have to dig thru heavy material and so chance soft tissue injuries and deep enough so when they go faster they don’t fly and scare themselves or slip trying to turn/stop.
We try to maintain a 3 1/2" depth at most. We use a tape marked yard stick to measure depth regularly.

More important for us is to keep the ground worked often so it is flat and even all over.
Best I remember, initially we had 12 big belly dumps delivering the sand, that was leveled with laser on a grader and then they added another 3/4 trucks.

Over the years we had to add about 4 trucks twice and has worked wonderfully.
Never had any injuries we know of from the footing, horses and trainers really love it.
4H older kid’s horses especially appreciate a footing kind to their aging bodies, we think.
We keep it watered regularly to control dust, but a bit on the dry, lighter side.
For roping training, using a dragging roping dummy has been a game changer.
So much can be taught slow and easy until the basics are firm on hand.

I think it would be fine as is for jumping training also, especially cavalletti, gymnastic work and lower height courses.
For more advanced, faster work in any discipline, with bigger efforts expected, we would try to keep it a bit more moist, so to have some more grip, expecting only fit, more experienced horses to be using it then.
We could also work it up a bit drier and so faster, that would be closer to competition conditions, but would not want the young inexperienced ones to scare themselves before being ready by going too fast to have good control.

We have an outside arena for horses to experience working on different footing also.
Indoors is mostly for more precise and all weather training.

Don’t know if any of this applies to your situation, but maybe it will help you if some may.
Taking care of footing is an ongoing learning experience and each arena has its own quirks.
Horses will let you know by how they respond if they are unconcerned or worried working on whatever footing you provide, listen to them. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thanks for all the suggestions/answers everyone.

A little update, I did ride in the arena this weekend finally, and we really got out and investigated it. Some of the ground near the gates and the roping boxes is hard and then the “hill” we had him dig out at the back is deep. However, Mr. Arena man didn’t take as much material as SO swore he did… and while it’s not totally level - we can fix it.

We’re not down to the base (Mr Arena man just didn’t water or drag before he left) and we’re mostly on natural footing with some added sand. SO took the tractor and T3 to it before the rain yesterday, and he’s going to get the water truck out and work it more this week. It already looks better. The “hill” in the background is sand, I’m assuming from sand they trucked in owners past, so we have some we can finish leveling with.

The great news is I think we’re only going to need a few truck loads added and not a total arena redo. Luckily, I’m in the part of TX where our arena sand is sifted down the road after one of the ranches digs a tank.

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