Attaching the lunge line to the bit

[ladyj79]

The “Pessoa contraption” is pretty prevalent among fei show jumpers. That said I worked for a rider for a long time who grew up riding with Necco and we never used the Pessoa system. I’m not a huge fan personally and it can really go wrong if horse and lunger are not in sync. I have seen people flip horses over and seen horses run backwards through fences. Of course this happens without the rig on but it just seems to me there is less room for error or miscommunication with it.

I am a big fan of longlining.
I am not a huge fan of either chambon or sidereins although I have used both extensively. I like to be able to release when the horse “submits” and find that neither of these tools really allow for that and I see a lot of horses developing incorrect musculature.

[SendenHorse]

I hate the Pessoa- the horse gets jabbed in the mouth when the hocks move. Too much of a gadget for me.

I like a sliding side rein, not under the legs or nothing at this point.

[mvp]

[QUOTE=merrygoround;8667334]
There is no excuse , hot baby horse or not for a longe line to be on the ground. Longeing in a situation such as that is not for novices. Longeing is not just running a horse in a circle to wear them down. It is a cultivated activity which takes the trainers full attention, and training.

The only time a very good longe line of mine was broken was when I allowed an “expert” to use it. :mad:[/QUOTE]

No, not lunge line on the ground while lunging. Of course not!

The lunge line should snap spectacularly in several places in mid-air when baby goes to swirl his head and buck hard.

Rather, the recipe calls for the lunge line to rot in the sun and rain. I don’t know if it should be left on the ground in order to get sand in the weave and thus weaken it.

[mvp]

[QUOTE=Velvet;8668104]
That IS long lining.[/QUOTE]

I think double lunging and long-lining are different, the difference being whether the inside rein goes from the bit though a turret on a surcingle or stirrp and then to your hand, or directly from the bit** to your hand, as with lunging. Asking the horse to pull give his head sideways vs. flexing back toward the surcingle/stirrup are different for him.

** I don’t mean that you must attach the lunge line to the bit, just specifying that it comes from the bit to your hand.

[DownYonder]

Our barn has Arthur Kottas in 3x per year, and he always uses a cavesson for lunging, long-lining, and in-hand work (absolutely does not want anything pulling on their mouths - wants them to trust the bit, and trust the contact). He is also fairly specific about what type of cavesson he likes, and we went through 3-4 of them (he wasn’t keen on any of them because of various shortcomings), so the BO ordered a custom-made one from a German leather maker recommended by AK. It was pricey ($600), but it is well made and AK uses it when he is here.

He has also indicated that he isn’t so much a fan of the donut side reins because they bounce too much. And he doesn’t really like the elastic ones for a horse that is schooled enough to accept contact - feels some horses learn how to evade even contact, plus the elastic gets stretched out unevenly over time, so he prefers plain leather side reins. Of course, he is a master in the use of side reins, lunging, long-lining, etc.

[Crockpot]

i love how there are FOUR pages in this

[TequilaMockingbird]

I have always put the line through the inside ring, over the poll, and attached to the outside ring.

If I am using side reins I use the center ring on my Micklem bridle to attach to longe line.

I have a cavesson but it doesn’t fit properly so I never use it. I’d love to have a nice one but they are expensive and I still don’t know that I’d be able to find one that fits my mare. Parts of her head are horse size and other parts are cob size. I had a hard enough time finding a halter that would fit properly.

I have never and would never use the Pessoa system.