Badminton 2017 Cross-country

Sincere apology from EW Facebook page:

Just to update everyone. Johnny is very happy munching his hay. I am okay as well. But disappointed in myself in letting my horse,country, and sport down. I should have pulled him up. Hindsight is always 20/20. And I agree with the ground jury giving me a yellow card. I made a mistake that I will NEVER make again. I am lucky we are both unscathed. He gave me everything today. So thankful for my team and everyone who has supported me. So sorry to let you down. I love my horse and my sport.

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If anyone wants to watch replays and watch the stadium live tomorrow, sign up for FEI TV. There is a one month free trial. You have to input your card info, but it will not charge you until next month if you keep the subscription. If you cancel before June 5, you won’t be charged. They have all the XC and dressage replays

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There was a clip of MJ I think on Instagram that said it all. Over the big over. His position is flawless as he rides over it, the minute the horse has all 4 on the floor he is back forward and Sams back is free and easily gallops away. I will say it again that I think riders who are not successful at this level do not give enough thought to their position. Riders who use their body too much to bring the horse back end up in trouble.

did you hear the comments about Chris Burton at his stop? They said he is so in control that his horse would not have jumped that last fence without a kick over. He asked the horse to wait then forgot to kick on after. There is a fine balance in having a rideable horse and also a horse with instinct. MJ said the first fences he had little control and it wasn’t until the water until Sam was listening - but you would never see it because he is not fighting him.

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I also recall reading that MJ does almost all his conditioning rides himself. I think handing those off to your workers is a mistake. How do you know when your horse is tired? Sore? Lots left in the tank… etc? That is all feel and it comes from many many miles in the tack doing the boring work.

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According to the Badminton website:

“A watch again service for all phases will be available post event to viewers anywhere in the world on our YouTube channel from 22.00 BST Monday 8[SUP]th[/SUP] May.”

I will definitely be checking that out–I saw the morning but missed some of the later rides. I want to watch it all again!

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I just finished watching and avoided internet so as not to spoil the ending. I’ve read this whole thread, and my thoughts are…

  • Astier Nicholas is hot. And smart. And a good sympathetic rider.
  • Yes, that appeared to be a lot of blood in the mouth of the French horse.
  • Elisa Wallace's finish was embarrassing. She would have been praised for pulling up a few from home and putting her horse's interests first. Instead she smacked him with the whip to get him home. The announcers were talking about how it's never a nice sight to watch a tired horse and that thankfully it's rarely seen these days, i.e., most people pull up instead of riding an exhausted horse. And for those defending her saying she only has this one horse at that level and he's syndicated, etc., that should not matter. Why should a horse who happens to be a rider's only 4* horse be ridden into the ground? If a rider only has one 4* horse, to me that's even MORE of a reason to not ride it to a fall. Save your horse for another day!!
  • Of course MJ and Sam were amazing.
  • I was rooting for AN since he's never won and has made a great comeback from his injury. How nice would it be if he could win.
  • There were a lot of fabulous rides by the "unknown" riders. Alexander Bragg's ride was fabulous. And he's not bad to look at, either. Austin O'Conner's was great. There was a young British woman who apparently was squealing with glee during her ride. She was ecstatic afterwards. I think another good one was Tom Jackson if I remember correctly. I believe he had a runout or something silly like that but the rest was great as was his horse.
  • So sad for Jonty Evans. Would have loved to have seen him on the top. I think he was 45 secs over with his runout and somewhat slow recovery. He would have been right up there without that. His horse was lovely.
  • I didn't like seeing the very early retirement of HSB after one mistake. If you go all the way across the pond, at least try to go a little further and gain some experience for the horse. I can understand an established rider with an established horse retiring early if a top placement is out of the question, but as the announcers were saying, sometimes the horses just need the miles, and getting round a course can make for invaluable experience even if you end up at the bottom of the leaderboard.
  • As someone who had a horse who had no qualms about stepping on a downed rider, I was impressed that the horse whose rider fell at the log at the water stopped right before her!
  • Yes, the commentators said that Burton is a very "dominant" rider, and that he didn't tell his horse to go over the fence he stopped at.
Lastly a question – do our 4* riders condition their horses to run and jump for 11 minutes? It seems like they should be conditioned to run and jump for about 14 minutes so they're not out of gas at the end, and if they have to take long routes, etc., and are out there for an extra 2 minutes, they're not completely out of gas before minute 13. I saw so many other horses who had well over a minute or sometimes 2 minutes in time penalties, and they were flying over the finish line with more in the tank….
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I was just watching the replay and during his interview was literally thinking to myself “Damn, I need to go to France” :lol:

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I wouldn’t be surprised to hear talk of possibility re-routing to Luhmulen (a la Boyd) since she pulled up SO early. I also don’t think we saw her first few fences, but the little bit they did show, I didn’t think Harbour Pilot looked like he was “into” it today.

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Good. It’s a start and the correct way to start dealing with a bad moment one causes. Eliza, we’ll be watching, but hoping you and Johnny have a good go the next time you ride.

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You know who would have loved that course today, RF Scandalous. BFNE mentioned he was better suited for the big course and this was big. Imagine his power in the hands of one who knows how to guide a horse well. I bet they are working to try and get WEG next year, but as much as I don’t like this course, it would be something to watch those two take it on assuming he finds his happy place again.

The same with Ingrid and what was such a great learning moment was when they came to the brush jump into the water. You could see she had way too much steam on and instead of fighting him to try and “make it work”, she chose from the start to take the long route. It cost her some seconds. but it also meant they had a calmer ride. IT seems like it took past half way for her horse to really settle, but like MJ, she worked with what she had and THAT is knowing your horse.

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The top 5 are all so brilliant I would be happy to see any win. MJ is of course my fav and I think it would be an incredible feat but I doubt we will be disappointed tomorrow with everyone’s results. I don’t think my respect for the German riders could be any higher.

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Gemma Tattersall also was one with a mouthful of blood. She had a wire bit in from what I could see and the horse was very strong. Not a fan of that myself.

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Update on Shanghai Joe:

[h=6]Shane Rose Eventing[/h] · 36 mins ·

Sadly Shane had a fall from Nugget today on the cross country course at Badminton Horse Trials. We were so pleased with how Nugget handled the tough track up to fence 19 were he unseated Shane over an upright that had to be jumped on a very steep angle. Nugget and Shane were both uninjured in the cross country fall. Unfortunately Nugget galloped back to his stable and fell on the bitumen and slid into the arches of Badminton House this resulted in a suspected fracture to hi…s shoulder, at this stage Nugget is in the care of the veterinary team here, he is resting comfortably and further X-rays and scans will be performed in the coming days to accurately assess the damage and treatment going forward. It is wonderful to be a part of the eventing family, so many people came to Nuggets aid today and for that we are truly grateful. Thank you to everyone that helped out and also to those who have offered message of support.

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That sounds like some injury. I wish him an uncomplicated and swift recovery.

Ugg…I feel for Nugget, and hope he can recover, even to live to retire. It is something he was able to run so far without being caught.

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Just saw Wallace’s ride and fall at the last fence. Clearly the horse is exhausted to the point of it being difficult to watch. Even if she had completed, there would have been no horse for tomorrow.

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He was galloping flat out to the stable. I don’t think anyone could have (safely) stopped him.

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I wish they had shown more of the little red mare Rioghan Rua. Must have been a great ride for Cathal Daniels (I think it was his first Badminton?) no jump penalties and 6 for time. Must have eased the pain of dressage!

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I was thrilled for him. What tenacity he had yesterday in the dressage. I’m so glad he made it through the test and could continue to cross country.
The announcers did say yesterday that there would be many people finishing today with more than the 80 something penalties that he incurred in dressage and right they were!

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