balance of wildlife and barn cats/feral cats

As I stated when I posted the link, it’s important to note that in that review, “unowned cats” INCLUDED farm/barn cats. Many on this forum might regard those as pets, but that is not the way “pets” was defined in that particular data review.

And again, it’s not focusing “only” on anything. It’s impossible to study (or solve) everything at once and such a noisy dataset would only produce meaningless gibberish, so you have to decide which specific questions you want to ask in order to get a meaningful scientific result. I think everyone on here knows that, but it’s also human nature to not like what you don’t want to hear, so it becomes an attempt to dismiss said undesired conclusion.

Not picking you particularly, S1969. But it’s also not really possible for anyone to be perfect & have no impacts on anything unless they are dead. And dead people are notoriously poor about sharing the ways in which they have provided benefit to wildlife. So yes, I own a farm and yes, I keep horses on it (2 on 10 acres). But I do as much as I can to mitigate the fact that I DO take up space in the world and I DO selfishly use resources to stay alive – I fence my horses out of the creek, I leave the riparian area undisturbed, I do not bush-hog low areas in spring & early summer breeding periods, I make & leave brushpiles for birds/herps/small mammals, I do not use chemicals such as herbicides/pesticides on my property, I encourage diverse vegetation for wildlife habitat, I actively discourage/remove non-native species, I do not have any outdoor pets except the two horses, I do not cause outdoor light pollution at night, etc. This is not say that I am any kind of saint, it’s just an illustration of the myriad voluntary ways a landowner can make active choices to protect & improve the quality of wildlife habitat available. Are there things I could do better? Certainly. Someone pointing them out is not them saying “you are a bad person,” it’s simply saying, “here is a way in which you can do better.” As I consistently tell my employees, I can’t know what I need to change unless you tell me, so I encourage that communication. There’s no good reason to be afraid of a challenge to improve.

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Just thought I would chime in again since I am the OP. I appreciate all of the dialogue and the different perspectives. Everyone has very different experiences and that is what makes the world go 'round. We spent a few hours this AM preparing the property so that we can move in soon. I am looking forward to having a slice of nature to call my own. At this time I am not entertaining the idea of a barn cat/feral cat but may revisit - with conditions - after I start up my small hobby farm. Like many here I try to make good choices to be stewards for the lives I am responsible for and the lives and areas that are around me. Have a great weekend!

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Catio ideas.

https://www.oregonlive.com/hg/2020/08/explore-10-purr-fect-cat-patios-from-your-home-see-the-8th-annual-catio-tour-virtually.html

That’s a great one!

Op, enjoy all the wonderful new sights! If you don’t know about it, there is a newer app called BirdNet that uses your phones mic to id birds by song. It’s not always right during my tests, but far better than I expected. It’s a great way to learn more about the flitty little things who never want to sit still long enough for a good look.

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Hi All, this is off topic but so please point to to a better resource if you have one… I was given a spayed wild kitten and my idea is that she can be a barn cat. I have had her in the tack room for the past 3 weeks with a litter box and she is awesome. She is now about 13-14 weeks old, is confident and playful and really really wants out of the tack room! I have an old barn cat that does not like her, my older cat does not live in the tack room but has seen the kitten. When should I release this kitten? Thanks~

I tried so hard to go without a barn cat. But the rats…cotton rats in particular. They are like something out of science fiction and we have so many hawks and owls here that I was sure it wouldn’t be an issue. I see the hawks hunting in the pastures during the day, but it just isn’t enough. The rats were all over the feed/tack room. I had to throw away several items of tack, including blankets and shipping boots I’ve had for years. We won’t use poison because it indiscriminately kills anything, so we use snap traps. Lots of them, but they don’t keep up. Feed is in metal cans. Tack is moved often to keep them from nesting. The barn cat we got from the pound (neutered, friendly stray; not feral) does a much better job. He doesn’t bring me any prizes and sticks very close to home (we border a state forest). I feel bad about any impact he makes, but, dang, those rats!

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Ok, if I had a rat infestation, I would probably get a cat, just like you did. I love rats - pet rats - but having an infestation is a health hazard.

but now I googled their image and cotton rats are pretty darn cute… like hamsters with a tail…

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I know, aren’t they adorable? Except when there are 20 and they are peeing on your stuff.

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