Barbaro ~ America's Horse

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I just don’t know how amputation would work in a horse, either. I know it’s been done, and has been said to be successful, but even a cat needs to relearn how to balance itself.[/QUOTE]
Here’s a stallion who’s had a successful amputation:

http://www.serenityequine.com/cfmef.html

Redden has done more than 40 himself and his technique grafting frog tissue to cover and protect the stump is pure genius.

Thanks, RC. I know it’s been done (haven’t seen that site, though!!), but it just…boggles my mind!!!

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Here’s a stallion who’s had a successful amputation:

http://www.serenityequine.com/cfmef.html

Redden has done more than 40 himself and his technique grafting frog tissue to cover and protect the stump is pure genius.[/QUOTE]

Dr. Andrea Floyd of Serenity Eq has 3 equines that are amputees - the stallion & two mini donkeys which are the cutest things ever! One of our horses is under Dr. Floyd’s care & the horse & I take a trip to visit Dr. Floyd every fives weeks.

Was this the photo?

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Was this the photo?[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:

That picture was obviously taken before he was injured. Looks like he just came off the van or is going to get on the van. But I’m sure people who don’t know horses and don’t follow racing wouldn’t know that.

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But I’m sure people who don’t know horses and don’t follow racing wouldn’t know that.[/QUOTE]

I would like to hope those same people do not read The Onion and somehow think the satiracle paper is actually news. You can’t fix stupid.

Would those same people think this is a real image of Mitt Romney?

Nor a joke when they see it.

The pic of Barbaro was stupid-the one of Romney was funny.

The article on Dean Richardson: A Year After Barbaro, Dean Richardson’s Story is excellent in the February 15th issue of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Barbaro’s chief veterinarian recalls his time with the late Kentucky Derby winner and what it’s meant.

Though he has been gone for a year, Barbaro’s fighting spirit lives on at New Bolton. The Barbaro Fund has raised more than $1.3 million, with proceeds going toward expansion of the George D. Widener Large Animal Hospital. A separate fund has raised $2.7 million for laminitis research.

[I][B]…and

[/B][/I]“So many people wanted answers right away,” Richardson remembered. “For me, it was all about being focused on the patient.”

[I][B]…and

[/B][/I]Barbaro’s legacy will likely be the impact he’s had on promoting research into the causes and treatments of injuries such as his. He leaves his mark not with his progeny but with the attention he brings to the prevention and repair of equine injuries and laminitis research.

…and

Last February, the Jacksons donated $3 million to New Bolton for an endowment in equine-disease research. The endowed chair is named for Barbaro’s team captain: Dr. Dean Richardson.

Please see the February 15th issue of The Chronicle for the complete article.

I have nothing but the most respect for Dean Richardson and others like him for the excellent treatment they give all of their animals. My complaint about the recent Chronicle article stems from the omission of basic knowledge that has accompanied every Barbaro related article published by both horse and general public sources.

I agree with the article when it indicates Barbaro’s impact has a positive impact on promoting research for the treatment of injuries such as his. However, where does the article mention educating owners and the public on the causes? Why did the article omit a fundamental cause: skeletal maturation of the horse? I believe (hope) anyone with a veterinary degree has the knowledge that a horse is not skeletally mature at age two or three. Don’t veterinarians and horsemen have an ethical obligation to discuss this fact openly and freely with the public? Veterinarians are primarily in the business of treatment. What other industry is ethically allowed (and supported) to omit known information to, in effect, drum up more business? Who bears the responsibility of prevention – don’t we look to horsemen and magazines like the Chronicle to discuss the facts?

I am certainly not in favor of ending all competitive horse sports as we know them. I am, however, interested in professionals openly and freely discussing all the facts with the public to promote the better welfare of our horses (and not just business via treatment).

If skeletal maturation had nothing to do with the initial injury, which it did not, why on earth would it need to be included in an article about him? Are they supposed to talk about colicking when the weather changes abruptly and foundering from getting into the feed room and gorging themselves or any other possible unrelated “facts” as well? Would have been an awfully long article.

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I have nothing but the most respect for Dean Richardson and others like him for the excellent treatment they give all of their animals. My complaint about the recent Chronicle article stems from the omission of basic knowledge that has accompanied every Barbaro related article published by both horse and general public sources.

I agree with the article when it indicates Barbaro’s impact has a positive impact on promoting research for the treatment of injuries such as his. However, where does the article mention educating owners and the public on the causes? Why did the article omit a fundamental cause: skeletal maturation of the horse? I believe (hope) anyone with a veterinary degree has the knowledge that a horse is not skeletally mature at age two or three. Don’t veterinarians and horsemen have an ethical obligation to discuss this fact openly and freely with the public? Veterinarians are primarily in the business of treatment. What other industry is ethically allowed (and supported) to omit known information to, in effect, drum up more business? Who bears the responsibility of prevention – don’t we look to horsemen and magazines like the Chronicle to discuss the facts?

I am certainly not in favor of ending all competitive horse sports as we know them. I am, however, interested in professionals openly and freely discussing all the facts with the public to promote the better welfare of our horses (and not just business via treatment).[/QUOTE]

Actually there has been research performed on three continents by veterinarians which addresses early training and skeletal development of the thorougbred racehorse. It’s very available to the public, in fact I think I read a synopsis of some of the Great Britain research in Horse and Hounds magazine. I think, however, that the conclusions drawn from this research may not be agreeable to the “wait until they’re ‘X’ number of years old before training” crowd.

Laurierace, I do agree with you about the depth of an article that would be needed to cover the topic - the Chronicle didn’t have time to go there. Unrelated, extraneous facts are a matter of opinion (they don’t have time to go there either). I understand the article was primarily to feature the veterinarian. I am happy for additional research investigating new treatments, but that seams to be what “all” the articles focus on. Dare I say there is an attitude in most of the Barbaro articles of “it’s O.K. to continue with high rates of injury, we’ll just throw more money at the problem and hire more veterinarians for treatments.” Yes, the skeletal maturation information is there, but not brought into mainstream discussions - I believe that is the responsibility of the publication to provide that information. As this particular article states, “Barbaro’s legacy will likely be the impact he’s had on promoting research into the causes and treatments of injuries such as his. He leaves his mark not with his progeny but with the attention he brings to the prevention and repair of equine injuries and laminitis research.” I hope to hear more about prevention in future articles - what might be done to direct some of the attracted resources toward the support of horsemen and trainers in the industry before a veterinarian needs to be called.

Central Park “Barbaro memorial” clarification

It took so long to get a reply that I can’t find the thread on any of the first 8 pages of the forum, but I have this clarification from Adrian Benepe, Commissioner of NYC Parks:

“The statue’s artist has applied for a three-hour special event permit. One can certainly argue whether this is a self-promotional art event or a public demonstration, but either way it’s covered by the First Amendment. The statue will not be on display as a temporary art installation, but rather as part of a press conference, after which it will be removed. Parks does not, as a rule, consider content when evaluating special event applications and is in the process of reviewing the application. We will then make a determination on the appropriate and available spaces, date and times for the event.”

No, I’m not a troll idling re-opening an old thread :wink:

The Bloodhorse reprinted this old article from early 2006 (1/7/06) published after Barbaro won the 2006 Tropical Park Derby (G3T) on January 1 at Calder.

I didn’t realize that Barbaro’s first 3 victories were all on turf. Two years earlier (2004), Kitten’s Joy won the same race.

Barbaro had the bloodlines to be good on turf. Yet, along his path, the decision was made to go dirt over turf.

I don’t recall after the Preakness if the Jackson’s ever expressed regret over the decision to put Barbaro on the TC trail.

Yet, after reading this article, I wonder if the Jackson’s ever did regret their choice to go dirt. I know there is little sense in looking back as what has happened can’t be changed. Still, I wonder…

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No owner who wins the Kentucky Derby regrets the decision that got the horse there. Even though much I’m sure they wish hadn’t happened, came later.

I don’t see how anyone can ever regret winning the Derby.

Now that you mention it, I wonder too. I also wonder if he had a dirt race before the Derby. I also didn’t realize a turf horse could qualify for the Derby.

Hindsight isn’t always 20/20 but I think I would have regretted moving him to dirt. IF the vets thought that might have been what caused his injury.

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The KY Derby was Barbaro’s third start on dirt. The Preakness was his fourth. Before the KY Derby he ran in–and won–the Holy Bull and the Florida Derby.

I would be shocked if any vet, anywhere, would attribute his injury to the switch from turf to dirt.

I would agree that no owner would regret winning the Derby.

I also don’t think (and as I recall what the conjecture was at the time why Barbaro broke down in the Preakness) that the surface wasn’t a factor.

More I was wondering post breakdown and subsequent euthanasia after so many months of the rollercoaster ride if there was a tiny bit of regret that they switched him to dirt rather than leaving him on turf.

No, winning the Derby would surely be no regrets.

FWIW, his rollercoaster ride has influenced me in my estate planning…

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