Barisone assessment

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

The number of posts as cited above seems to indicate to me far more than obtusiveness. It’s very likely a strategy serving some purpose.

My friends make them do the heavy lifting. Engage if you will but perhaps lightly. You are being poked and prodded intentionally. Don’t let a wolf in creeps clothing guide the page. Ask what is trying to be accomplished here?

Did you mean to post this in a PM, @Knights_Mom?
You posted it publicly in the thread. Oops.

What does “My friends make them do the heavy lifting” mean?

The intention is quite clear that it is a call for the board to challenge the K family at every turn. My friends is a very common turn of phrase to mean a like minded group….aka the 99% of the thread supporting MB.

Are you projecting again. You yourself have said more than once you only PM friendlies…

I don’t hide things in the dark. It was an open post.

Sucks when your “gottcha” turns up empty, eh?

Yes, you posted it openly. I don’t think you meant to. Gotcha.

It didn’t reveal anything I didn’t already suspect.

It’s just so nice to have you blurt it all out there for me.

Thank you Thank you Thank you @Knights_Mom!

Have another drink dude. Your paranoia is showing.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

But what do you think they are trying to accomplish?

I think the thing they think they are trying to accomplish is exactly what they keep spewing at us.

To be able to claim LK is still a “victim” which is why they keep claiming we are all bashing Lauren, getting posters banned, malicious, enjoying this, etc ya da ya da. I suspect they think they will be able to convince the court of the idea that he’s pulling the strings and directing us all from within AK and that will hinder his release.

MB directing it? In a delusional state in a maximum security institution for people who are a danger to themselves or others? No, not MB. But who then? Hmmmm.

Oh but wait this is just a civil discussion of the trials.

[Maria]

I wonder, did LK/JK buy in Loxahatchamehoweveryouspellit, because they thought MB would be locked up for years and years and years? Or at the very least was going to take the Plea Deal?

Mind wandering thoughts this morning after wading through all of the above.

[Ambitious_Kate]

@hut-ho78

Reading the threads. Y’all outed everything about their whereabouts oh civil discusser of the trials.

No, she posted her new house and it’s whereabouts online. She outed herself.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

But what do you think they are trying to accomplish?

I think the thing they think they are trying to accomplish is exactly what they keep spewing at us.

To be able to claim LK is still a “victim” which is why they keep claiming we are all bashing Lauren, getting posters banned, malicious, enjoying this, etc ya da ya da. I suspect they think they will be able to convince the court of the idea that he’s pulling the strings and directing us all from within AK and that will hinder his release.

MB directing it? In a delusional state in a maximum security institution for people who are a danger to themselves or others? No, not MB. But who then? Hmmmm.

Oh but wait this is just a civil discussion of the trials.

It’s. Charlie.

Manson.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

You can’t pray the way God tells us too while behind a keyboard and on a screen. You aren’t keeping up your end of the deal. I suggest you go work on it.

I think all prayers are accepted including keyboard prayers. I bet most of us that pray have prayed away with deadlines, clients peering directly at us, documents lost to the Ethernet, and mysterious computer glitches or the IT driven no warning updates and restarts.

You reminded me of something. Wait. Here it is. https://verse.press/poem/the-prayer-of-cyrus-brown-27003

[Sdel]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, you posted it openly. I don’t think you meant to. Gotcha.

It didn’t reveal anything I didn’t already suspect.

It’s just so nice to have you blurt it all out there for me.

Thank you Thank you Thank you @Knights_Mom!

Have another drink dude. Your paranoia is showing.

Just in case anyone needs a recap…the highlighted portion is what CH thinks is an admission of a conspiracy…

Which is a stretch considering KM was responding to all of this plus some in the post directly above.

Twist, twist, twist…

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

The intention is quite clear that it is a call for the board to challenge the K family at every turn. My friends is a very common turn of phrase to mean a like minded group….aka the 99% of the thread supporting MB.

Are you projecting again? You yourself have said more than once you only PM friendlies…

Yes, I only PM friendlies because I’ve noticed when others use PM posters hostile to them, they get in trouble.

My friendlies and I do not coordinate attacks, though.

Are you sure? I guess you just focus on conspiracy theories.
[/quote]

???

I’ve have suspected that there is PM ing going on within the @Knights_Mom group, or subsets thereof, and that the PMing was used to coordinate attacks on other posters, including me. I assume that this is permitted by forum rules. Is that what you’re referring to as my “conspiracy theory”? KM has just confirmed my “theory”. Oops.

I don’t coordinate attacks with the small number of posters that I feel comfortable PMing with.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@BigMama1

@FitzE

That was a direct declaration by LK’s mother (self identified) that someone who cares about MB should be feel happy he is in a maximum security mental health institution because at least ‘he is surely safe now.’ The implication that he will not necessarily be ‘surely safe’ once released is clear. And chilling.

Is it? I interpreted it as he’s safe because he’s in a secure institution getting the mental health help he needs. I’m no fan of the Kanareks but I think people are really reaching to interpret that as a threat.

Sorry, Big Mama: but considering that HH has also started saying something similar it is a big red flag. Despite their protestations otherwise, logically only a direct family member would be putting this much time and effort into defending and explaining away the actions that triggered this event. In fact, they’ve all exhibited very big tells. It is very unbelievable the idea that they are random nobodies on the internet.

And yet I am a random nobody and I believe @CurrentlyHorseless is too. I’m here to try to understand what happened with the shooting and understand what motivates people to gang bash victims and now anyone who calls that out. You laid out quite an incredible plot with your earlier post. Have to give you credit for an imagination unless it’s really targeted social media manipulation, getting the story out to the public like a press conference.

[Sdel]

@Maria

I wonder, did LK/JK buy in Loxahatchamehoweveryouspellit, because they thought MB would be locked up for years and years and years? Or at the very least was going to take the Plea Deal?

Probably setting themself up to claim the FL farm since they were unable to stop the sale/collect the funds from the NJ one.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

QFP

@CurrentlyHorseless

Eggbutt, you have quoted Seeker1, gone in and altered the words within the quote, and posted the altered quote with it still attributed to her.

Do you think @trubandloki is doing this with some or all of the quotes she posts? Changing the words why still attributing them to me?

@CurrentlyHorseless

Her point is that to refute the lies you are posting here, she has to dredge through this stuff.

Her choice is:

Let the lies stand, vs
Relive the 911 call to refute the lies.

How is that an “easy-peasy” choice?

@hut-ho78

Interesting observation.

@eggbutt

Ask her. Of course you can compare your original to any QFP at any time.

I have not edited anything I have quoted.
If I edit (not very often, and not any of these QFP quotes), it is noted that it was edited and what exactly was edited.
So funny that someone would try to say otherwise, but I guess when you have no good facts on your side you have to make up things.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Replying again since you (gasp) edited.

RG had every right to use as much force as necessary to subdue MB. He was not “beaten to death”. RG used non lethal force in the face of lethal force.

MB, and you, should be thankful that RG stopped MB using the second clip and that he didn’t need to kill him to do so.

MB having shot LK, you now think think that MB has the right to move to Florida and LK doesn’t, when he is eventually released from confinement?

@hut-ho78

They bought it so she could be near her horses in training with Ulf. It is a small community and several live there for affordability. This was discussed in detail by y’all on earlier threads something I find troubling as it exposes MHG’s and LK’s homes to the public.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Did you mean to post this in a PM, @Knights_Mom?
You posted it publicly in the thread. Oops.

What does “My friends make them do the heavy lifting” mean?

@hut-ho78

Reading the threads. Y’all outed everything about their whereabouts oh civil discusser of the trials.

@CurrentlyHorseless

FOTFLMAO

What lies against MHG, JH and LO have been posted? If you see any, defend away. It’s exhausting BTW.

And yes, I think you try to drive off anyone with an opinion you don’t like.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Re bolded. Yes, I would trust the justice system to keep him confined until it’s safe for him to be released and I would move to Florida if that’s the top dressage scene.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, you posted it openly. I don’t think you meant to. Gotcha.

It didn’t reveal anything I didn’t already suspect.

It’s just so nice to have you blurt it all out there for me.

Thank you Thank you Thank you @Knights_Mom!

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, I only PM friendlies because I’ve noticed when others PM posters hostile to them, they get in trouble.

My friendlies and I do not coordinate attacks, though.

ETA. I am not part of the Kanarek family. I don’t know about HH, but I have no reason to believe she is part of the Kanarek family either.

@hut-ho78

MB directing it? In a delusional state in a maximum security institution for people who are a danger to themselves or others? No, not MB. But who then? Hmmmm.

Oh but wait this is just a civil discussion of the trials.

@hut-ho78

I think all prayers are accepted including keyboard prayers. I bet most of us that pray have prayed away with deadlines, clients peering directly at us, documents lost to the Ethernet, and mysterious computer glitches or the IT driven no warning updates and restarts.

You reminded me of something. Wait. Here it is. https://verse.press/poem/the-prayer-of-cyrus-brown-27003

@CurrentlyHorseless

???

I’ve have suspected that there is PM ing going on within the @Knights_Mom group, or subsets thereof, and that the PMing was used to coordinate attacks on other posters, including me. I assume that this is permitted by forum rules. Is that what you’re referring to as my “conspiracy theory”? KM has just confirmed my “theory”. Oops.

I don’t coordinate attacks with the small number of posters that I feel comfortable PMing with.

Wait? Tell me more! How does one get into a super secret private PM group?

@hut-ho78

And yet I am a random nobody and I believe @CurrentlyHorseless is too. I’m here to try to understand what happened with the shooting and understand what motivates people to gang bash victims and now anyone who calls that out. You laid out quite an incredible plot with your earlier post. Have to give you credit for an imagination unless it’s really targeted social media manipulation, getting the story out to the public like a press conference.

[Sdel]

Scripture says otherwise. The Bible is very specific about how you are expected to come before God.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Knights_Mom

LK relocating near where MB will reside is just another mean girl tactic of intimidation in my opinion. Otherwise who would move so close to the person who allegedly tried to kill them?

Everyone reading should ask themselves that question: If someone shot you twice in an attempt to kill you would you then buy a house near theirs?

100%

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

The number of posts as cited above seems to indicate to me far more than obtusiveness. It’s very likely a strategy serving some purpose.

My friends make them do the heavy lifting. Engage if you will but perhaps lightly. You are being poked and prodded intentionally. Don’t let a wolf in creeps clothing guide the page. Ask what is trying to be accomplished here?

Did you mean to post this in a PM, @Knights_Mom?
You posted it publicly in the thread. Oops.

What does “My friends make them do the heavy lifting” mean?

The intention is quite clear that it is a call for the board to challenge the K family at every turn. My friends is a very common turn of phrase to mean a like minded group….aka the 99% of the thread supporting MB.

Are you projecting again. You yourself have said more than once you only PM friendlies…

I don’t hide things in the dark. It was an open post.

Sucks when your “gottcha” turns up empty, eh?

Yes, you posted it openly. I don’t think you meant to. Gotcha.

It didn’t reveal anything I didn’t already suspect.

It’s just so nice to have you blurt it all out there for me.

Thank you Thank you Thank you @Knights_Mom!

Have another drink dude. Your paranoia is showing.

I’m not a dude, but I could use more coffee.

I’m happy to leave your post out there in all its glory, honestly quoted for posterity. Deny away! Have fun!

[Warmblood1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m not a dude, but I could use more coffee.

I’m happy to leave your post out there in all its glory, honestly quoted for posterity. Deny away! Have fun!

The fact you think you uncovered some great conspiracy or denial is hilarious to me.

[DownYonder]

@ekat

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I think he’s already won the Triple Crown.

At this rate, the Travers is a

I don’t know. I think My Opia is making a late surge.

My money is on Sikopath.

[ekat]

Early coffee musings re: the civil trial.

On June 14th, the Court ordered the production of 81 (I Know! 81!) audio files the Prosecution had from the criminal trials. Prosecution was given 10 days to comply, which would be June 24th.

Presumably, by this previous weekend, all the parties (and/or their attorneys) now have 81 recordings.

What if one party heard a recording or two that they didn’t know the other side had for the duration of the criminal trial?

What if one party also realized that, since the recordings have been disclosed, and I can’t see they were disclosed under seal (I could be wrong- there could be an order I missed or not reflected on the website), those recordings are now an ineffective threat to hold over someone’s head, since many people have access to do what they wish?

I may need more coffee.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m not a dude, but I could use more coffee.

I’m happy to leave your post out there in all its glory, honestly quoted for posterity. Deny away! Have fun!

@ekat

What if one party also realized that, since the recordings have been disclosed, and I can’t see they were disclosed under seal (I could be wrong- there could be an order I missed or not reflected on the website), those recordings are now an ineffective threat to hold over someone’s head, since many people have access to do what they wish?

And those people have the ability to hear what is actually on them, which will refute all the exaggerated claims of what some people claim is on them.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

QFP

@CurrentlyHorseless

Eggbutt, you have quoted Seeker1, gone in and altered the words within the quote, and posted the altered quote with it still attributed to her.

Do you think @trubandloki is doing this with some or all of the quotes she posts? Changing the words why still attributing them to me?

@CurrentlyHorseless

Her point is that to refute the lies you are posting here, she has to dredge through this stuff.

Her choice is:

Let the lies stand, vs
Relive the 911 call to refute the lies.

How is that an “easy-peasy” choice?

@hut-ho78

Interesting observation.

@eggbutt

Ask her. Of course you can compare your original to any QFP at any time.

I have not edited anything I have quoted.
If I edit (not very often, and not any of these QFP quotes), it is noted that it was edited and what exactly was edited.
So funny that someone would try to say otherwise, but I guess when you have no good facts on your side you have to make up things.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Replying again since you (gasp) edited.

RG had every right to use as much force as necessary to subdue MB. He was not “beaten to death”. RG used non lethal force in the face of lethal force.

MB, and you, should be thankful that RG stopped MB using the second clip and that he didn’t need to kill him to do so.

MB having shot LK, you now think think that MB has the right to move to Florida and LK doesn’t, when he is eventually released from confinement?

@hut-ho78

They bought it so she could be near her horses in training with Ulf. It is a small community and several live there for affordability. This was discussed in detail by y’all on earlier threads something I find troubling as it exposes MHG’s and LK’s homes to the public.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Did you mean to post this in a PM, @Knights_Mom?
You posted it publicly in the thread. Oops.

What does “My friends make them do the heavy lifting” mean?

@hut-ho78

Reading the threads. Y’all outed everything about their whereabouts oh civil discusser of the trials.

@CurrentlyHorseless

FOTFLMAO

What lies against MHG, JH and LO have been posted? If you see any, defend away. It’s exhausting BTW.

And yes, I think you try to drive off anyone with an opinion you don’t like.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Re bolded. Yes, I would trust the justice system to keep him confined until it’s safe for him to be released and I would move to Florida if that’s the top dressage scene.

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, you posted it openly. I don’t think you meant to. Gotcha.

It didn’t reveal anything I didn’t already suspect.

It’s just so nice to have you blurt it all out there for me.

Thank you Thank you Thank you @Knights_Mom!

@CurrentlyHorseless

Yes, I only PM friendlies because I’ve noticed when others PM posters hostile to them, they get in trouble.

My friendlies and I do not coordinate attacks, though.

ETA. I am not part of the Kanarek family. I don’t know about HH, but I have no reason to believe she is part of the Kanarek family either.

@hut-ho78

MB directing it? In a delusional state in a maximum security institution for people who are a danger to themselves or others? No, not MB. But who then? Hmmmm.

Oh but wait this is just a civil discussion of the trials.

@hut-ho78

I think all prayers are accepted including keyboard prayers. I bet most of us that pray have prayed away with deadlines, clients peering directly at us, documents lost to the Ethernet, and mysterious computer glitches or the IT driven no warning updates and restarts.

You reminded me of something. Wait. Here it is. https://verse.press/poem/the-prayer-of-cyrus-brown-27003

@CurrentlyHorseless

???

I’ve have suspected that there is PM ing going on within the @Knights_Mom group, or subsets thereof, and that the PMing was used to coordinate attacks on other posters, including me. I assume that this is permitted by forum rules. Is that what you’re referring to as my “conspiracy theory”? KM has just confirmed my “theory”. Oops.

I don’t coordinate attacks with the small number of posters that I feel comfortable PMing with.

Wait? Tell me more! How does one get into a super secret private PM group?

@hut-ho78

And yet I am a random nobody and I believe @CurrentlyHorseless is too. I’m here to try to understand what happened with the shooting and understand what motivates people to gang bash victims and now anyone who calls that out. You laid out quite an incredible plot with your earlier post. Have to give you credit for an imagination unless it’s really targeted social media manipulation, getting the story out to the public like a press conference.

You’ve pointed out that your QFPing is not against forum rules.

I’m pointing out that the system also permits you to enter your quotes of my posts and edit them. The system might note that there was an edit made to your ridiculously massive post, but would not indicate that you had changed my words, as Eggbutt altered Seekers words and left the quote attributed to Seeker1.

I’m not saying you’ve done it. I’m saying nothing in the system prevents you from doing it. I’m saying you could do it at any time in the future until the thread is archived.

It’s not really a legitimate record, is it? That’s not why you do it, is it?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Warmblood1

Do you honestly believe it’s logical for one to believe they can control the narrative of the internet?

Seeker is choosing to post and participate, choosing to listen to recordings, choosing to attempt to refute lies. And in doing so, encouraging conversation which people respond to.

If seeker simply did not participate, conversation wouldn’t be encouraged as opposed to participating and encouraging conversation.

It’s pretty simple.

THIS.

Honestly, if Seeker truly is KK… then my suspicion is that LK is in the background, communicating quite clearly with her family how VERY upset she is that she has been banned from the COTH forums. She can’t dominate discussions here anymore.

But she can watch them.

And guess what? The ongoing discussion post trial, lack of sympathy for LK, etc etc? It is very likely she is reading along. And feeling narcissistic injury.

And sooner or later… that translates to narcissistic rage.

Anyone who has ever had one of these people in their immediate family or circle for a significant time, and become codependent or enmeshed… well… you understand the whole concept of ‘walking on eggshells.’ My guess is that many K family members walk on eggshells at times with LK. Because they KNOW how destructive and out of control she can get when she is in a rage. My guess is that some of the posting on here by other K family? It’s an attempt to soothe and pacify LK. Not because they believe that her behavior is defensible or that her actions were valid and reasonable. Nope. I suspect that they are just trying to soothe her and prevent more destructive acting out by LK.

JMHO. Calling it like I see it.