Barisone/Kanarek Legal Filings (Public Record)

[Knights_Mom]

@YankeeDuchess

No, I understood that you were discussing general legal principles.

KM stated that she had personal familiarity with a case in which the property owner was awarded treble damages even though the property owner knew that the contractor was unlicensed.

I was not aware that she was practicing in NJ. But if it was a NJ case she was describing, that would seem definitive. I’m confused that a lawyer practicing in NJ, who knew personally of such a case, would need to bring in the opinion of a lawyer from another country. Presumably she knew the underlying legal principles as well.

Once again, my “obtuseness” is not feigned.

It was not a NJ case. I work in law in another state NOT NJ.

[YankeeDuchess]

@LilRanger

the point is you are talking trash about something you know not. Chutzpah, that.

  If I have made an incorrect statement about the concept of common law, please let me know.

[Denali6298]

@Knights Mom

It was not a NJ case. I work in law in another state NOT NJ.

We all got that save one poster. @YankeeDuchess this is why we get annoyed. We all follow along and then you pick nits over things we all understand.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Knights Mom

It was not a NJ case. I work in law in another state NOT NJ.

Thanks. That’s how I remembered it.

[LilRanger]

@YankeeDuchess

I must have missed the specific NJ case that KM cited. Can you provide the post number?

ooh, clever clogs! You’re right and I’m wrong, the case is about freezing assets!

But! (there’s always a but!) we have some statutory citing from Iberianwhozit.

Anyway, what’s it to you if NJ has this law? You appear to be double dog offended by the idea. Like pages of offense.

Are sad you have to pay licensed contractors where you live?

Wait, what are you writing that paper on?

[Knights_Mom]

@YankeeDuchess

I must have missed the specific NJ case that KM cited. Can you provide the post number?

I did cite NJ law having found they have similar statute regarding unlicensed contractors and treble damages.

[YankeeDuchess]

@LilRanger

So, as said before, KM showed us a NJ case that shows the liability of unlicensed contractors. Do you believe that if KM (or any other Doctor of Jurisprudence here) is not licensed in NJ this case becomes not relevant?

Because that is what you are declaiming without actually typing those words…

Your “obtuseness” may not be feigned, but you’re doing a good job being a gobshite.

@Denali6298

Here is

@LilRanger

saying that KM cited a NJ case.

[LilRanger]

@YankeeDuchess

@Denali6298

Here is

@LilRanger

saying that KM cited a NJ case.

yes, yes, that’s me! Ya got me! goal for you!

[LilRanger]

@YankeeDuchess

@Denali6298

Here is

@LilRanger

saying that KM cited a NJ case.

so, are you like, a researcher then?

[Denali6298]

@YankeeDuchess

@Denali6298

Here is

@LilRanger

saying that KM cited a NJ case.

I got that knights mom and fitze were speaking for their jurisdiction that didn’t include NJ about three pages ago. What is your issue?

They provided general legal background that may or may not apply to NJ. Literally not seeing an issue.

[YankeeDuchess]

@LilRanger

so, are you like, a researcher then?

Am I involved in legal research? No.

[LilRanger]

@YankeeDuchess

Am I involved in legal research? No.

what research are you involved in?

[YankeeDuchess]

@Denali6298

I got that knights mom and fitze were speaking for their jurisdiction that didn’t include NJ about three pages ago. What is your issue?

They provided general legal background that may or may not apply to NJ. Literally not seeing an issue.

Knights Mom was talking about a case in a specific jurisdiction that was not NJ, and added that she believed that the law in NJ was similar, but did not cite a specific NJ case. FitzE was not talking about any specific jurisdiction, but was talking about the general legal principles that inform how the laws might be written.

[YankeeDuchess]

@LilRanger

what research are you involved in?

I haven’t said that I’m involved in any type of research.

[cutter99]

Y’all, I am starting to feel like a mother here with a bunch of naughty, naughty children. I go outside for a few hours to dig up some plants, and you waste time and energy engaging with someone whose only goal is to antagonize and get things shut down.

Y’all are smarter than this. Y’all are better than this. Now, straighten up and make me proud!

[LilRanger]

@YankeeDuchess

Knights Mom was talking about a case in a specific jurisdiction that was not NJ, and added that she believed that the law in NJ was similar, but did not cite a specific NJ case. FitzE was not talking about any specific jurisdiction, but was talking about the general legal principles that inform how the laws might be written.

Yes, and?

I’m learning a ton (or a tonne? I haven weighed it yet) here.

[MorganSercu]

@iberianfan

KM did cite NJ law. It is codified at NJAC 13:45a - 16.2. If a contractor violates these provisions, that is also a violation of NJ’s Consumer Fraud Act, which calls for treble damages against the contractor. All explained very well by KM and FitzE.
I apologize for the incorrect citation format as I am typing on a tablet and it does not have the full capabilities of a computer.

NJ law. Thank you Iberian Fan and Knight’s Mom.

[MorganSercu]

@Knights Mom

It’s late, I’m lazy but yeah NJ has that treble damages thing. So does Florida. Here’s a peek of snippets of statute without me doing actual research.

“It’s tempting to hire an unlicensed contractor. Their services are low cost, and you are not even legally obligated to pay them. In Florida, unlicensed contracting can be a misdemeanor or felony, depending on the facts. Consequently, unlicensed contractors generally possess no contract or lien rights.”

"New Jersey General Contractor License Requirements. To work as a contractor in the State of New Jersey, you’ll need register with the Division of Consumer Affairs , as well as to obtain a license issued by the State’s Department of Banking & Insurance (DOBI) if you are providing financing."

“Any person who suffers an ascertainable loss of moneys or property, real or personal, as a result of an unlawful practice under the NJCFA may be awarded threefold damages and reasonable attorney’s fees and costs. N.J.S.A. 56:8-19.”

YEAH SO MAYBE THAT’S WHY. [ATTACH=JSON]{“data-align”:“none”,“data-size”:“large”,“data-attachmentid”:10609053}[/ATTACH]

Thank you again, KM.

[eggbutt]

@cutter99

Y’all, I am starting to feel like a mother here with a bunch of naughty, naughty children. I go outside for a few hours to dig up some plants, and you waste time and energy engaging with someone whose only goal is to antagonize and get things shut down.

Y’all are smarter than this. Y’all are better than this. Now, straighten up and make me proud!

THIS

[MorganSercu]

@YankeeDuchess

@Denali6298

Here is

@LilRanger

saying that KM cited a NJ case.

It appears you owe at least three additional people apologies.