Barisone- New Thread

[ekat]

Me too. I think the DA would rather not have to get a 3rd and 4th version out of his witnesses and would prefer to quietly make it all go away.

[Knights_Mom]

@Fat_Dinah

Jurors can only follow the law. They can’t and shouldn’t decide based on feeling sorry for someone or thing if the penalty is too much. That’s why the judge, not the jury, decided a penalty. Except for the death penalty, which is unique.

You keep thinking that.

[Fat_Dinah]

If they had found drugs in Barisone’s pocket, he’d face drug charges, too. But not gun possession for an unlawful purpose.

[anon6923113]

@ekat

Although…if it’s a hung jury, how will everyone feel?

Personally… a hung jury makes me believe in the jury system, and some citizens who serve on juries taking their duty VERY seriously, such that they will not succumb to pressure.

I actually think a hung jury in this case makes sense. So much mess was thrown at the jurors. Worst of all? Two witnesses who were… problematic.

[Angela_Freda]

@RND

This is funny coming from someone who has posted pictures of snowflakes in response to countless people here over many months, even when the snowflake reference made absolutely no sense.

[MHM]

@anon6923113

@Joanne

A workaround is pretty easy to find. Since “Bob” is “a retired lawyer,” I assume “he” could figure it out. I think “Bob” is afraid to face COTH.

“Bob” should be more worried about what the heck all of “Bob’s” barn mates are thinking.

I wouldn’t want to stay at a barn with “Bob” after watching this trial. No.Way.

Luckily for the barn mates, it’s the end of the show season there, so there should be plenty of empty stalls in the surrounding area if they decide they all need to vacate the premises.

Unfortunate for them if they are put in the position where they feel the need to do that. But better than some of the other possibilities.

[MHM]

Well, bless your heart.

[rockymouse]

When I was ten, the chain broke on my bike while I was noodling along on my street, a few hundred yards from my house. A neighbor found me sitting dazed on the curb, with a gash on my chin and the chain wrapped around my shin. He brought me home. My parents bathed me, I was seen by a doctor who lived on the street, I had something to eat, we had conversations, I was put to rest on the couch, and yet I did not “wake up” until 8pm that night. This part I remember distinctly - a show was on PBS about an aircraft called the Gossamer Albatross and I asked my mother a million times “what happened, what happened.” I remember she grew frustrated that I could not hold her answers in my mind. Per the neighborhood doctor’s recommendations, they woke me every hour that night.

I am now 54 years old. I have zero memory of that day until coming to at 8pm. I still do not remember waking up, or having breakfast, not the accident, not bathing or the doctor - nada, zip, zilch, until the Gossamer Albatross.

I can believe the claim of amnesia. I don’t know that’s what happened to him, but I can confirm that it does, indeed, happen.

[Fat_Dinah]

I will. Because that is how the judicial system is meant to work.
It is how I serve as a juror.
I suppose from your comment that, if you were a juror, you would follow your personal feelings and not carry out the law.

[MHM]

@Joanne

“Under N.J.S. 2C:39-5(b), possession of a handgun in New Jersey, without an FID (Firearms Identification Card) and a permit, is a crime of the second degree, and punishable by 5 to 10 years in State prison.”

I have to say that sounds quite different from what the judge said in his instructions to the jury. He definitely mentioned intent to commit a criminal act or unlawful purpose or something along those lines.

[RND]

@MHM

Well, bless your heart.

Honestly, I apologize. I had no idea that these snowflakes had a different, special meaning to all of you that is different than the normal meaning that everyone outside of COTH understands. My apologies, I won’t make fun of any of you for posting snowflakes again.

[Knights_Mom]

@Fat_Dinah

I will. Because that is how the judicial system is meant to work.
It is how I serve as a juror.
I suppose from your comment that, if you were a juror, you would follow your personal feelings and not carry out the law.

You would then be supposing wrong.

Jurors get weird and rule weirdly. That’s a fact.

Despite your not so veiled assertion that I wouldn’t follow the law, that’s not the point.

For Instance: As horsemen we all know wet leather shrinks. But then there came

“If the gloves don’t fit you must acquit”.

OJ walked free.

[Angela_Freda]

Umm, it can’t be that it makes no sense to you…

@RND

This is funny coming from someone who has posted pictures of snowflakes in response to countless people here over many months, even when the snowflake reference made absolutely no sense.

… and also suggest you know what it means

@RND

I don’t doubt that many of you here on the COTH MB threads have your own understanding of the meaning of snowflakes, but in the real world it is quite different. You in particular can be forgiven for not knowing that since you clearly spend most of your life here (don’t feel offended, you obviously have many friends who are also here with you all day every day). Keep on with your daily life here if that makes you happy and don’t let anyone make you feel bad.

[MHM]

@Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion

I agree that mere possession to me does not get up the hill to intent to commit a crime. But I think the jury might be trying to split hairs and find a compromise of sorts.

I’m really starting to wonder if it will end up as a hung jury.

After seeing the extremely entrenched opinions displayed on this thread where there is nobody with skin in the game, I wonder if those 12 people will be able to agree on anything in this case.

[anon6923113]

I’m still wondering if they are going yo find him straight not guilty on the charge related to RG, and consequently, the second gun charge.

[CanteringCarrot]

There are people that can discuss the topic at hand (the case) and those that rather insult, bicker, and get personal/make it about posters and their activities. I’d ignore the latter, because they aren’t worth your time.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

@MHM

@Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion

I agree that mere possession to me does not get up the hill to intent to commit a crime. But I think the jury might be trying to split hairs and find a compromise of sorts.

I’m really starting to wonder if it will end up as a hung jury.

After seeing the extremely entrenched opinions displayed on this thread where there is nobody with skin in the game, I wonder if those 12 people will be able to agree on anything in this case.

I agree, it very well may hang. I think the only thing the jury may unanimously agree on is that horse people are crazy and should be given wide berth.

[MHM]

@ekat

Although…if it’s a hung jury, how will everyone feel?

Probably happy, since everyone can claim that the whole jury agreed with their own opinion except for that one stupid random juror who was the hold out. Lol.

[anon6923113]

I can think of one person who will

LOSE.HER.MIND.

if there is a hung jury.

[Angela_Freda]

@MHM

After seeing the extremely entrenched opinions displayed on this thread where there is nobody with skin in the game, I wonder if those 12 people will be able to agree on anything in this case

But they’re really not entrenched opinions that are based in an understanding of the facts of the case, the evidence, what was and wasn’t allowed.
Its just opinions based on… a part of the story.
They’re quite committed to that ill informed opinion, but not enough to actually learn anything about it.

That suggests that its merely entertainment to come here and bluster about what they clearly don’t know about. Or care to learn about.
Entertainment.
Yikes.