Barisone Safe Sport Update

[Angela_Freda]

@Seeker1

I heard what I heard that Michael and MHG said. IT WAS SCARY as HELL. Believe me or don’t. The prosecutor heard them too

But chose not to enter them into evidence why?

[Seeker1]

MHG called everyone she knew. She admitted this in court.

[Seeker1]

She did not have the choice to admit or not admit. The judge decided that. I was not privy to the reasons.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

Pretty sure the multiple boxes of suboxone that were found caused a great deal of concern for MB, MHG & the staff.

[MHM]

@Seeker1

MHG called everyone she knew. She admitted this in court.

When, exactly? I don’t recall that part of a testimony.

[Seeker1]

This is why everyone including Michael, the prosecutor, the judge knew Michael did it. They heard the plans on the tapes.

[Seeker1]

Go watch it again MHM. I am not your secretary.

[Angela_Freda]

@Seeker1

The plan was to go get to a higher level like most of the rest of you… at least those who even ride and care about the sport which is not everyone. To get to the goals, Michael suggested she buy and bring more horses. The plan was to bring the horses from Europe and then Rob was going to help Michael fix the house so everyone had a place to live. There were no other plans until the tapes captured a really bad plan by Michael to get her out once he found out she had been arrested (not convicted) and made some mean posts to other people not even connected with him .

How was LK aware of this activity?

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

@Seeker1

so do you think she started out training with him to destroy him?

Ya know, this is a good question. Did she? Or was it a plan that they came up with after she started with him?
I personally think (my opinion) that she got jealous because like you yourself said in earlier threads when his attention was not on her in a way she wanted it to be so her plan to destroy him started.
But heck, with the way this family plans to use people who knows if the whole process was a plan from day 1.

I personally don’t think it was a plan from Day 1. I think LK overestimated her riding proficiency once she got to a certain place or needy enough (or both) and when she saw MHG getting the attention she wanted for herself she began a soft campaign to turn one against the other. That’s when MB and MHG started disputing about this. Then when MB decided to get rid of her they had to find a way and first decided that training would then be done by JH.

This escalated things to MB really having to be punished and events quickly escalated. And with every MB “defiance” or pushback LK and Co. escalated his punishment until it became war.

It should be noted that it was LK and LK alone who chose this path rather than vacating. It was LK who decided to resort to anything she could - coercion included.

[Sdel]

@Angela_Freda

@Knights_Mom

Even the pretend negotiation between JK and MBs attorney was in my mind just a further bull tactic to delay allowing more time to intimidate.

I don’t for a moment believe that particular negotiation was made in actual good faith by the K side. It was a ruse

. I guess I hadn’t considered that… Excellent point though.

Yes. One must wonder exactly how quickly they managed to get a meeting with busy lawyer on such short notice (8/6) since in theory JK had been negotiating with MB’s lawyer to present her with a move out agreement (8/5). I’m sure it took quite a bit of time to arrange accommodations with another trainer. I assume this is what MHG was doing since LK specifically mentioned her calling around to other trainers. I wonder, was MHG really trashing her, or maybe was she being honest when asked about LK’s riding ability?

[Seeker1]

Believe whatever you want. Say whatever you want.

[Angela_Freda]

@Seeker1

This is why everyone including Michael, the prosecutor, the judge knew Michael did it. They heard the plans on the tapes.

And you e never asked why these damning tapes weren’t used?
If they were so damning, I’d be after whomever didn’t allow them as evidence!!

[Seeker1]

MHG was busy calling everyone she could think of to badmouth lk. She and some of the witnesses mentioned this in their testimonies.

[Seeker1]

The judge makes these decisions without my input Angela_Freda. I do not have the right to know any more.

[Angela_Freda]

I’m asking you questions to understand what happened.

[Seeker1]

Why do you work on understanding why this is absolutely none of your business and how you are apparently gleefully hurting people without the full story?

[Angela_Freda]

@Seeker1

The judge makes these decisions without my input Angela_Freda. I do not have the right to know any more.

Your lawyer husband, the other family members who are lawyers haven’t offered a theory as to why these damning audio outlining the murder plot were left out?

So you transcribed it, so must know it quite well… What was the plot?

[Knights_Mom]

@Seeker1

Why do you work on understanding why this is absolutely none of your business and how you are apparently gleefully hurting people without the full story?

None of our business?

Gleefully hurting people?

You’re kidding, right?

[Seeker1]

Again, none of your business Angela_Freda.

[trubandloki]

@Seeker1

The plan was to go get to a higher level like most of the rest of you… at least those who even ride and care about the sport which is not everyone. To get to the goals, Michael suggested she buy and bring more horses. The plan was to bring the horses from Europe and then Rob was going to help Michael fix the house so everyone had a place to live. There were no other plans until the tapes captured a really bad plan by Michael to get her out once he found out she had been arrested (not convicted) and made some mean posts to other people not even connected with him.

@Seeker1

I heard what I heard that Michael and MHG said. IT WAS SCARY as HELL. Believe me or don’t. The prosecutor heard them too.

@Seeker1

Then LK got really scared he might hurt her horses and or her. She wanted to leave, However, as mentioned in the trial, MHG was busily on the phone calling everyone trying to get her blackballed from any respectable barn. She quite busy doing this. So Lauren’s choices to move were limited. Once we got home from our trip we started helping her, but this took more than a couple days.

Strange, someone offered up to move her horses and your hubby had arranged a place that Lauren refused to go to (per the testimony of your lawyer).

The facts that your side said under oath are ruining all of your stories.

@Seeker1

MHG called everyone she knew. She admitted this in court.

@Seeker1

She did not have the choice to admit or not admit. The judge decided that. I was not privy to the reasons.

You could ask your husband to explain it to you. Likely has something to do with the recordings are illegal.

@Seeker1

This is why everyone including Michael, the prosecutor, the judge knew Michael did it. They heard the plans on the tapes.

@Seeker1

Go watch it again MHM. I am not your secretary.

@Seeker1

Believe whatever you want. Say whatever you want.

@Seeker1

MHG was busy calling everyone she could think of to badmouth lk. She and some of the witnesses mentioned this in their testimonies.

Isn’t there some order in place that your whole family is not not supposed to be talking about MHG?

@Seeker1

The judge makes these decisions without my input Angela_Freda. I do not have the right to know any more.

@Seeker1

Why do you work on understanding why this is absolutely none of your business and how you are apparently gleefully hurting people without the full story?