Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Knights_Mom]

@mbdsea

Well, for sure, though I’ve seen very unlikeable people - where even the jury says things such as, “we didn’t like him or her” - and still find in favor of that person on some claims.

I think there was probably more to it. I think the state’s expert was truly awful. I can’t see any jury liking or listening to that guy; I really can’t. And I think that - along with maybe some reasonable doubt in the back of their minds as to in what order events occurred - may have been determinative.

But that’s just speculation, of course.

I laughed when it came out that the Def expert was often used by Prosecutors too. Made me wonder if that pool of experts is limited and Bilinkas, being the specialist that he is, made sure to grab the best guy first, leaving Sir Talksalot for the Prosecution.

[MHM]

@ekat

It’s very frustrating.

Welcome to the Chronicle BB! Lol.

[mbdsea]

Definitely could be - that happens a lot. We all know who the good ones are in civil practice for my particular (main) area of the law, and we snap those ones up quick.

He was so bad. I couldn’t believe the state hung its hat on him. I honestly can’t think of a time when I’ve seen one that bad on direct. (I’ve definitely seen experts fall apart on cross).

[ekat]

@Knights_Mom

Sir Talksalot

I’m dying.

[eggbutt]

@Knights_Mom

@mbdsea

Well, for sure, though I’ve seen very unlikeable people - where even the jury says things such as, “we didn’t like him or her” - and still find in favor of that person on some claims.

I think there was probably more to it. I think the state’s expert was truly awful. I can’t see any jury liking or listening to that guy; I really can’t. And I think that - along with maybe some reasonable doubt in the back of their minds as to in what order events occurred - may have been determinative.

But that’s just speculation, of course.

I laughed when it came out that the Def expert was often used by Prosecutors too. Made me wonder if that pool of experts is limited and Bilinkas, being the specialist that he is, made sure to grab the best guy first, leaving Sir Talksalot for the Prosecution.

Indeed! Remember IM getting their panties in a wad about Simring being a defense witness?! You’d think with all their inside information they would have known exactly when he was hired!

[ekat]

And honestly, that was one of the moves by Mr B that impressed me a lot - bringing in Dr Hasson to work with MB after the Moustache spent 13 hours with him, and Dr H was able to rebut that man’s testimony so well. They didn’t need a 2nd expert after Dr S, but that was a great move.

[StB.YM]

@MHM

You’re… you’re not familiar with Frozen? How did you get to be so lucky?

I have thankfully never watched Frozen, but did have a coworker who played the soundtrack every single morning, which is how I learned about

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

Indeed! Remember IM getting their panties in a wad about Simring being a defense witness?! You’d think with all their inside information they would have known exactly when he was hired!

That was a slick ass move on Bilinkas’ part.

[BigMama1]

@hut-ho78

Tarshas told him to file it. He refused. I don’t see you putting up with nonsense or drama or trying to scare her out.

I would try to avoid a long and expensive legal battle if possible. I would exhaust all other possibilities before formally filing an eviction notice. Funnily enough, that’s exactly what MB did too.

[Knights_Mom]

I also think Bilinkas’ fumbling in the beginning then getting better and better as the trial progressed was performance art.

Then the emotional, powerful crescendo at closing.

Masterclass.

But that’s just me.

[mbdsea]

As an aside, the civil case will be interesting. I think someone mentioned that a lot more evidence may come in during a civil case, and that’s probably true - there are a lot less guardrails involved, and judges tend to let things in.

[Omgitsme]

There isn’t a specific medication for those with BPD, at least not one that’s FDA approved specifically for BPD. That said, there are lots of different medications available that are used to treat the symptoms of BPD.

[mbdsea]

He was a little shouty for me in closing, but, then again, I’m not from NJ.

[mbdsea]

In a hypothetical situation and not dispensing legal advice, lol, that’s the approach I’d take.

[MHM]

@mbdsea

the mens rea. Without the latter, there is no crime

Even I know that much from watching Legally Blonde. And that film is not even on the list of recommended law school movies from previous threads here on the BB! Lol.

[ekat]

I agree. I can’t fathom a civil attorney watching the train wreck that was LK on the stand and thinking a repeat is a good idea. Except, the civil attorney did call this jury insane. So there’s that.

If it actually makes it to court, it will be fascinating.

[mbdsea]

Hahaha - I had to dig deep during the pandemic for things to watch, and I did watch that one again - the “bend…and SNAP!”

Actually, the one they show in some law schools for Civil Procedure is “A Civil Action.” Fairly accurate depiction of a civil case. Can’t really think of a criminal one, though!

[Knights_Mom]

@MHM

@mbdsea

the mens rea. Without the latter, there is no crime

Even I know that much from watching Legally Blonde. And that film is not even on the list of recommended law school movies from previous threads here on the BB! Lol.

Though in Legally Blonde mens rea wasn’t the key. It was the same day perm and wash!

[mbdsea]

Well, I can say this much - even though big awards get in the news, juries do not like to give out free money. They just don’t. And, discovery will be very interesting, for sure.

[Sdel]

@Knights_Mom

@MHM

@mbdsea

the mens rea. Without the latter, there is no crime

Even I know that much from watching Legally Blonde. And that film is not even on the list of recommended law school movies from previous threads here on the BB! Lol.

Though in Legally Blonde mens rea wasn’t the key. It was the same day perm and wash!

And the man who knew his designer shoes…