Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[BrendaJane]

not my experience at all.

[MHM]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

So it’s disingenuous to refer to their trainer-client relationship as some year long continuous living situation. It clearly wasn’t.

Disingenuous is an excellent word for a lot of these posts.

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

So, was MHG already divorced from her husband when she left him, disrupting the lives of the two children, to enter a “relationship” with a top trainer who might facilitate her goal of getting on an Olympic team? A top trainer who had been permitting two “known druggies” to live on his property for a year?

Why on earth are you so extremely obsessed by this? And trying so very hard to twist things into some variation of Poor Victimized Sweet Innocent LK That Everyone Was Plotting Against? And why the sudden campaign against MHG? This sudden, laborious crusade of posting gymnastics to turn the tables and make LK into someone who was mercilessly bullied and beaten down is ridiculous.

Unless you are playing to an audience of One…

LK had the means to leave that barn if she was so bullied and unhappy. She even had stalls ready for her at another barn so she could remove herself and her horses from the situation. But that did not fit in with her plan to Finish The Bastard…

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@KurPlexed

@CurrentlyHorseless

. It’s clear that MB/MHG went to considerable effort to dig up dirt on LK

Lol you don’t have to dig far. I also don’t think they were “digging for dirt” I think they were getting familiar with exactly what they were dealing with on their property and in their lives.

The training/living relationship had been in place for over a year at that point. They were documenting stuff for the big files submitted to SS and USEF.

There is no need to have to search very hard to dig up any dirt on LK - she has left mountain ranges of dirt strewn in her wake across SM.

It is also rather normal to contact other barns to get info on past boarders or employees. Nothing evil or nefarious there - and doing so saved our barn from a particular boarder who left unpaid bills, anger, possible theft etc. behind her at every barn she had boarded at.

I am sincerely hoping that you are just getting your jollies by poking and prodding and trying to get a reaction here… as opposed to how you have suddenly become the ultimate LK fan and are trying so desperately - and obviously - to change the narrative.

But then, we have seen that happen with YD in the past… no truth but her truth… even as it fluctuated and morphed along the way…

[smoofox]

@Ghazzu

@smoofox

he was much too busy schooling his stable of amazing Grand Prix dressage prospects

he was much too busy schooling his stable of Breyer horses.

Fixed it for ya.

I stand corrected - thanks! But he did brag about all the young horses he had in his barn from superb bloodlines that were “10” movers…

[BrendaJane]

[BrendaJane]

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@smoofox

@CurrentlyHorseless

@KurPlexed

@CurrentlyHorseless

. It’s clear that MB/MHG went to considerable effort to dig up dirt on LK

Lol you don’t have to dig far. I also don’t think they were “digging for dirt” I think they were getting familiar with exactly what they were dealing with on their property and in their lives.

The training/living relationship had been in place for over a year at that point. They were documenting stuff for the big files submitted to SS and USEF.

So now you are painting LK and RG as heroes… dutifully reporting nefarious deeds to SS and USEF.
There is no need to have to search very hard to dig up any dirt on LK - she has left mountain ranges of dirt strewn in her wake across SM.

I am sincerely hoping that you are just getting your jollies by poking and prodding and trying to get a reaction here… as opposed to how you have suddenly become the ultimate LK fan and are trying so desperately - and obviously - to change the narrative.

But then, we have seen that happen with YD in the past… no truth but her truth… even as it fluctuated and morphed along the way…

What? I’m not painting LK and RG as heroes (although I think RG tackling MB was a heroic act, given that MB, in his delusional state, might have gone on to shoot himself or others if not subdued by RG.)

My point was that it was MHG digging up dirt, or perhaps I should say “compiling known dirt” on LK to report it to SS and USEF. And no, I don’t think the reporting by MHG of “nefarious deeds” to SS and USEF was heroic.

I’m still LMAO that Joanne seemed to “point out” that CanteringCarrot” used the phrase “so are you saying …” just like YD used to. Cue ominous music.

@CanteringCarrot: It’s obvious to any non paranoid person you are your own person and not YD. But some posters seem to suspect that YD is lurking behind every post they disagree with. Soon they’ll be imagining LK coming back with a new screen name. Or maybe IM with a alter. The possibilities are endless…

[MorganSercu]

@FitzE

Public sexual harassment is what they were engaged in that day.

I bet they call it foreplay.

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What? I’m not painting LK and RG as heroes (although I think RG tackling MB was a heroic act, given that MB, in his delusional state, might have gone on to shoot himself or others if not subdued by RG.)

My point was that it was MHG digging up dirt, or perhaps I should say “compiling known dirt” on LK to report it to SS and USEF. And no, I don’t think the reporting of “nefarious deeds” by MHG to SS and USEF was heroic.

I’m still LMAO that Joanne seemed to “point out” that CanteringCarrot” used the phrase “so are you saying …” just like YD used to. Cue ominous music.

@CanteringCarrot: It’s obvious to any non paranoid person you are your own person and not YD. But some posters seem to suspect that YD is lurking behind every post they disagree with. Soon they’ll be imagining LK coming back with a new screen name. Or maybe IM with a alter. The possibilities are endless…

Yes, you have posted your fangirl (seeing as that is an approved term by some in these threads) admiration for RG a few times. I realized that you were actually talking about MHG and MB compiling files - so edited my post accordingly.

But you are now obsessed with painting LK and RG as victims of bullying and whatever other nomenclature you can come up with… when the only victim category would be the tragedy of actually getting shot. Thus RG does not even have any “victim” status.

When conversations start to follow long established, disingenuous YD tactics, comparisons to that kind of antagonistic, beat-others-over-the-head-with-your-current-obsession-or-point-LOL-and-LMAO style will tend to be made.

And no, Cantering Carrot is not YD. She would have to post a helluva lot more - and much more imperiously and sonorously.

[Cowgirl]

I know we weren’t going to discuss the drug abuse, but I can’t resist responding to her comments about “being clean”. Long term suboxone use is just trading a prescription drug for an illegal drug, but it is still addiction and the withdrawal effects are even worse. Long term suboxone use is not the medical standard, even though it is done, because of this. It is meant to be used to withdraw the addict from their dependency together with a therapy program meant to deal with the mental and behavioral aspects of addiction. The recidivism from suboxone (and methadone) is very high (like 92%), however some doctors do prescribe it long term for patients who might otherwise kill themselves with drug use. So her statement that she is “clean” is false–she is still addicted to a medication and lapses are quite common with this particular medication. The Dangers of Long Term Suboxone Use | Maryland Addiction Recovery I certainly would not want her in my close community.

[CanteringCarrot]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@smoofox

@CurrentlyHorseless

@KurPlexed

@CurrentlyHorseless

. It’s clear that MB/MHG went to considerable effort to dig up dirt on LK

Lol you don’t have to dig far. I also don’t think they were “digging for dirt” I think they were getting familiar with exactly what they were dealing with on their property and in their lives.

The training/living relationship had been in place for over a year at that point. They were documenting stuff for the big files submitted to SS and USEF.

So now you are painting LK and RG as heroes… dutifully reporting nefarious deeds to SS and USEF.
There is no need to have to search very hard to dig up any dirt on LK - she has left mountain ranges of dirt strewn in her wake across SM.

I am sincerely hoping that you are just getting your jollies by poking and prodding and trying to get a reaction here… as opposed to how you have suddenly become the ultimate LK fan and are trying so desperately - and obviously - to change the narrative.

But then, we have seen that happen with YD in the past… no truth but her truth… even as it fluctuated and morphed along the way…

What? I’m not painting LK and RG as heroes (although I think RG tackling MB was a heroic act, given that MB, in his delusional state, might have gone on to shoot himself or others if not subdued by RG.)

My point was that it was MHG digging up dirt, or perhaps I should say “compiling known dirt” on LK to report it to SS and USEF. And no, I don’t think the reporting by MHG of “nefarious deeds” to SS and USEF was heroic.

I’m still LMAO that Joanne seemed to “point out” that CanteringCarrot” used the phrase “so are you saying …” just like YD used to. Cue ominous music.

@CanteringCarrot: It’s obvious to any non paranoid person you are your own person and not YD. But some posters seem to suspect that YD is lurking behind every post they disagree with. Soon they’ll be imagining LK coming back with a new screen name. Or maybe IM with a alter. The possibilities are endless…

I do agree with/think it does get a bit carried away with the whole alter thing sometimes. Sometimes people aren’t YD, or an alter for the LK “team” but are just themselves. If someone were to think I’m YD that’d be really…weird. My posting style and frequency varies from that of YD, and I’ve been CanteringCarrot for quite some time on here…and also contribute to other horse related threads. That’s why I was genuinely baffled by that post.

[ekat]

@Cowgirl

Long term suboxone use is just trading a prescription drug for an illegal drug, but it is still addiction and the withdrawal effects are even worse

I agree with you. I think, also, when discussing LK, you have to also include RG. RG started out his testimony on the stand as having been clean for “several years.” Except, again under oath, he also “slipped up a few times” that summer. It’s been my experience that people in active addiction “slip up a few times” using language like that to downplay their actions and minimize their active drug use. People in active recovery tend to be a lot more forthcoming and descriptive when talking about their past use of any given drug.

RG’s admissions under oath tell me he’s still not truly clean, nor is he working on it. And he also is allegedly taking Suboxone. It would be extremely difficult and extremely unlikely for his girlfriend to maintain sobriety while he is not. Someone truly working on their sobriety does a heck of a lot better once they kick the “slip-ups” to the curb.

Take away a whole lot of other things those two were doing, evidence of drug use (who knows what all was in that PI report) would make me not want them on my property as well.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@DownYonder

So someone at the DA’s office was leaking info to Daddy-O?

@Inigo-montoya implied, no stated they had friends on both sides giving him information. Little ditties like, “I can promise you there is no one MB hates more than MG” indicating he had heard from “insiders” that it was agreed “none of this would have happened without MHG”. (Paraphrased) IM eluded with certainty the outcome of the trial would be guilty times 4 once the plea was rejected. Although the entire tone of the LK squad changed dramatically after the plea rejection IMO - from raving what a huge mistake it was to reject it, to almost an Oh, Shxt! tone!

Another lie. IM said that it was very risky for MB to turn down the plea deal and plead the affirmative defense of NGRI, and explicitly said that there’s no telling what the jury will do.

[Cowgirl]

I know that addicts, as well as some of the physicians making lots of money prescribing this stuff, will say that a person is “clean” from the last time of illegal use. However, they are now dependent on their prescription medication (the same way some of them claim to have gotten started down the path of addiction in the first place). Most of the more reputable addiction treatment centers treat the whole person–the behavioral, emotional, physical and social elements of addiction. Suboxone alone is just continuing the addiction and leads to lapses in recovery–only the patient usually does not overdose. In any event, the druggy behaviors persist without real recovery treatment. And, in this case, the drug use/suboxone use IS relevant to the reasons leading to him wanting her and her cabana boy gone, as well as the fear that permeated the farm with them around.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

And did HB contact you as someone else who had a SM spat with LK? Weren’t they compiling a file?

I’m in a generous mood today, Sunday and all.

I’ve known HB for YEARS! HB wouldn’t have had any reason to contact me regarding LK during the time LK was with MB. BTW, MHG wouldn’t have had any reason to contact me either since I already knew LK had trashed me to her. Poor LK thought MHG was agreeing with her, all the while knowing she was going to let us know quickly what she was still saying after YEARS of no contact!

You simply can’t accept the fact that in this state at least, this woman and her family have a nasty reputation. Word gets around and just like on this forum, others pop up saying, OMG that happened to me too.

Honestly @CurrentlyHorseless (I’m really sorry you are horseless…you really should have something more productive to do) I’m not sure what your end game is. I’m not going to be intimidated by the likes of you. Your questions are borderline intrusive and definitely none of your business since you say you are not involved IRL with anyone. Um have I asked you any personal questions about your life and interests? Nope. I respond to you when the mood strikes because I was raised better than several on this forum…it must be a Southern Thang.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

And did HB contact you as someone else who had a SM spat with LK? Weren’t they compiling a file?

And I would know this, how? I’m really good but I’m not clairvoyant!

You truly are way too concerned about who, when and why anyone would have contacted me about LK.

[Omgitsme]

LK is ruining herself. Compiling proof of her actions isn’t “ruining” her. I’ve reported her to SS myself for her words to me and another young woman, complete with lots of screenshots of her threatening and attempting to demean us.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The training/living relationship had been in place for over a year at that point. They were documenting stuff for the big files submitted to SS and USEF.

No, wrong-o! They contacted people to try and figure out how they had gotten rid of the woman. Of course no one had allowed her into their home and business like MB did, so he was forging virgin territory!

Anything they would have collected for “their file” would have been considered hearsay anyway. You can’t comprehend the number of people who had already contacted SS/USEF about her prior to MB’s tragic involvement. By golly, you really are blinded by something…

[KarenK]

@hut-ho78

Y’all make her out to be the bogey man.

And YOU are the kind of person I flick in the forehead!