Barn cat went to the HeavySide Layer today. Seen these symptoms before?

I’m gutted about this cat. He was a rescue (dropped off somewhere, they brought him to the farm) Tuxedo cat with no tail and a particular kind of mustache. There are only so many things you can call a cat with a mustache who always looks like he’s glaring at you, so I named him Charlie before “Hitler” stuck. He was just a really fun cat- super friendly and curious, always into everything (he was barred from the feed room several months ago after we found him sampling the SMZ tabs, and you couldn’t leave food out in the tack room as Charlie Cat would eat it.) He was absolutely the worst barn cat I’ve ever met. Watched birds for entertainment but would not hunt- as it got colder we were hard pressed to even get him to move off of a trunk or saddle pad he had claimed as his. Left to his own devices he’d spend most of his day napping in his bed in the heated tack room. On warm days, though, he practically beat down the door to get out and trot around the aisle looking for sandwiches, batting hay stems around the floor, and trying to get into my coffee. Just a really fun cat. I am not in any position to have a cat right now, but I had in the back of my mind that when the opportunity arose, I was going to try to adopt Charlie to be a house cat.

Charlie Cat died, possibly in his sleep, today, and since there was no immediate cause, I’m asking for my own edification if anyone has seen this kind of symptomology before and what it might have indicated, so that I can be more informed in future.

Charlie came to the farm with what appeared to be a mild cold- clear nasal discharge, little cough- that he never quite got over. His symptoms worsened, and once or twice his sneezes included blood. The vet prescribed an oral antibiotic in November, which greatly improved but did not eliminate his symptoms. From then until present, Charlie Cat continued to sneeze (infrequently, not constantly, but more than a healthy cat) and would very occasionally (once a month) pass bloody mucous after a particularly heavy bout of sneezing. The vet suggested a possible nasal polyp, but exploratory surgery and lay-up care for a drop off barn cat was not in the budget, and the vet was satisfied that his symptoms improved after antibiotics. Recently his demeanor was normal. He was cheerful, sociable, and kept to his regular routine of sleeping 23 hours a day in his bed in the warm tack room, except for warm days or horse shows, when he’d trot out and hit up anybody who came near him in hopes of getting fed a bagel or some tomato soup. He was a lazy bum but I wouldn’t characterize him as lethargic. His eating and drinking was all normal and he was in good weight and condition. Today he was found in his bed, curled up as normal with his eyes closed, with what I estimate as about 1.5ccs worth of bloody discharge from the nose. No apparent discharge from eyes or mouth. Between the time I fed him at lunchtime (he was sleepy and didn’t want more kibble, but acknowledged my presence and purred when petted) and when he was found around 3:30, rigor had partially set in, and I did not open his mouth to check for blood inside it. There was no sign of any trauma outside the body or that would have occurred as he died, and there was no sign that he got into anything that could have poisoned him. We have no idea how old he was.

Does this happen to ring a bell to anyone of an illness you may have seen before?

I loved that damn cat. I wish I could have buried him on the saddle pad he claimed as his (I took it away once to wash it when he was out in the hay barn, and there was such hissing at anyone who approached “his” counter in the tack room until he got it back.) Worst barn cat I’ve ever met in my life. Hopefully that wasn’t his 9th life and he’ll be reborn as somebody’s pet.

Sorry for the loss of such a great cat.

I’m afraid I don’t have any ideas, but I’m sorry for your loss, Renn. From the way you’ve taken the time to describe him, I’m sure he knew he was well loved.

His chronic upper respiratory symptoms sound consistent with Herpes. However that’s not deadly so I suspect it was not the cause of his demise.

Unfortunately cats can have heart conditions that never show symptoms until they’re catastrophic. He could have gotten thumped by a horse and had a slow internal bleed, or any other number of sudden causes.

Wish I had more for you, but I can tell you from your description he didn’t suffer a prolonged death, everything about his positioning says peaceful.

Sorry for your loss. Heart disease is a silent killer for many cats

Maybe was FIP? IIRC it’s fatal in about 10-15% or so of cats. I do know it can present as bloody nasal discharge in some cats.

Feline Infectious Peritonitis, maybe could have been that?

So very sorry for your loss. :frowning:

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His chronic upper respiratory symptoms sound consistent with Herpes. However that’s not deadly so I suspect it was not the cause of his demise.

Unfortunately cats can have heart conditions that never show symptoms until they’re catastrophic. He could have gotten thumped by a horse and had a slow internal bleed, or any other number of sudden causes.

Wish I had more for you, but I can tell you from your description he didn’t suffer a prolonged death, everything about his positioning says peaceful.[/QUOTE]

I agree, he sounds just like my herpes kitty. Was he fiv flk tested? have seen several positive kitties pass in their sleep that way. godspeed to a good kitty.

SO sorry for your loss. I have no idea about what happened.

What a tragic loss:( My guess would be the same as some others - FIP.

Herpes virus can cause nasal discharge and even eyes clogged shut, but it shouldn’t have lasted so long. Antibiotics may or may not help. Simple L-Lysine, though, has been clinically proven to stop the replication of herpes virus in cats so that’s always something to keep in mind.

I do not think this sounds like herpes virus though.

It sounds like he had a warm, comfortable, safe place to live and that’s a lot. It also sounds like he slept a lot.

I’m sorry for your loss.

I would suspect chronic herpes. And if you’re in the south a lot of sudden cat deaths have been necropsied and determined to be heartworm disease. The only symptom in cats is death.

Thanks. I’ve boned up on the symptoms of FIP so that I can be better informed in future. He didn’t show any of them other than the occasional bloody discharge, but who knows.

Coyoteco, he was a big sleeper, even for a cat, especially as it got colder. That always seemed to be “just part of him” but of course it could have been a long-standing symptom we missed. Although not ever a really playful cat, he was much more active on warmer days- climbing into the storage loft, surveying the hay shed for intruders, supervising lessons, and of course stealing food. That cat was a bum!

Thanks everybody for the info and your condolences. It’s weird going into the tack room and not seeing him on his bed and it will take a while to get out of the habit of hiding my lunch. I have to say, though, if it was coming this week, thank goodness he died yesterday. I had enough trouble digging the sloppy ground deep enough for an appropriate grave (the barn manager and I took turns with a shovel and a post hole digger and only got about two and a half feet) and getting rocks out of the ground to weight down the top. Today the ground is solid and we’re under snow. Hopefully all that is enough to keep animals out of his grave, and I’ll plant something out there in spring to mark the spot. I don’t know what I’d have been able to do to put him to rest if he had passed any other time this week.

One more thing I hesitated to mention. Cats need taurine. Several years ago Purina saw that its cats sometimes died unexpectedly from heart disease. The company investigated and discovered that too little taurine in the diet cause heart failure. Purina pushed legislation to ensure that all commercially prepared cat foods have sufficient taurine. If a cat gets its nutritional requirements from dogfood or human food, there is insufficient taurine. Sometimes something can inhibit the utilization of taurine in the body also. One of the abandoned feral kittens a few years ago was blind as a baby. The opthamologist said to give high doses of taurine for six weeks to restore some of the vision. It actually did work to improve her vision somewhat - not enough, but enough to see a difference.

It can cause retina damage, brain damage and heart damage. Same kitten had a very, very fast heart beat and went to the cat specialist about that, too.

I’m sorry for your loss, Charlie Cat sounds like such a character.

I have no idea about what might have been the cause, but I’m glad he died peacefully, in his home, with people who loved him.

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What a tragic loss:( My guess would be the same as some others - FIP.

Herpes virus can cause nasal discharge and even eyes clogged shut, but it shouldn’t have lasted so long. Antibiotics may or may not help. Simple L-Lysine, though, has been clinically proven to stop the replication of herpes virus in cats so that’s always something to keep in mind.

I do not think this sounds like herpes virus though.

It sounds like he had a warm, comfortable, safe place to live and that’s a lot. It also sounds like he slept a lot.

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My herpes cat had the bloody looking (it isn’t actually blood) discharge from one eye and the nostrils every day for the 9 years he lived. He was on lysine, which did help, but nothing completely fixed the damage that was done.

I agree that it isn;t likely to be why he died though.

What a lovely and poignant eulogy, Ren / aissance. I am so sorry about Charlie Cat. We had a full-dress kitty at a barn I used to ride at.

I am sorry, too, that I can’t offer any suggestions as to what happened. But I do know one thing wonderful that happened for him – he found you!

Godspeed, Charlie.

No suggestions as to what took him, but it sounds like he had a peaceful end.
Like RPM said, his Luck was good, he found you.

Lung cancer? My parents’ cat died of it. Only symptom was coughing and lethargy. My co-worker just had a lobe of his cat’s lung removed due to cancer that they found during a routine check of her heart murmur.

so sorry about your Charlie. He was lucky to have you. I have no thoughts on why he died but wanted to tell you I think you did a wonderful thing giving him a home.