Barn drama - crazy barn owner addition

First time poster, long time horse owner and boarder.

What are some of the crazy things that your boarding barn owners/managers have done to you in the past. I’m weighing out how bad my situations is and deciding if I need to move.

I’ll share a previous experience to get us started…

I have an older cushings pony and at the previous full care barn I paid extra for low sugar hay. They kept running out and feeding dairy hay without me knowing. I complained a few times when pony got sore feet but the barn owner was bad at managing money and could not afford to buy the right hay despite me paying $100 extra each month. Barn owner got extremely aggressive with screaming and crying when I offered to buy my own hay saying that if I don’t like the way they care for my horses I can leave. I left.

Your name is no drama, why start a post about drama?

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Tell us the situation and we will weigh in.

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we have a pretty funny thread on this from a few years back, I’ll see if I can dig up

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https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/off-course/307785-spin-off-things-you-never-thought-a-bm-would-have-to-tell-a-boarder

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https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/f…arns-and-drama

still looking for that thread…

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(I’m not posting to kill conversation, these were all just generally funny. or crazy)

https://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/forum/discussion-forums/off-course/305135-who-wants-to-read-my-barn-drama-novelle-post-and-be-glad-they-aren-t-me

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Just goes to show you are more likely to find a barn with some level of drama than one with no drama.

OP - general feeling around here is if you have a contract that states what level of care Dobbin should get, and you aren’t getting it, particularly when it involves the health and well being of the horse you should probably move.

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I think the important thing to remember is that we are all just human and generally passionate about our horses and their care. I’ve recently had a mishap with my barn manager and was almost thrown out for making a sharp comment over text message. In my mind it was a minor complaint about basic care but to the manager it was a personal insult. Good communication goes a long way!

I don’t think there are many barn owners/manager/boarders that truly deserve to be called crazy. That being said, I love reading these threads - puts minor problems into perspective :slight_smile:

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It’s funny how drama tends to find the people who thrive on it. There doesn’t have to be any drama at all if the unsatisfied person 1) has a contract and follows it, 2) addresses a problem directly with clear words rather than unmet expectations and frustration, and 3) takes their business elsewhere if the problem isn’t resolved in a reasonable timeframe. Or, 4) redefines what’s acceptable if there are no other acceptable options.

I will never get why someone would choose to continue to spend their time and hard-earned money in a vortex of chaos and unhappiness, but whatevs.

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If your gut tells you that your current situation is bad, move. You and only you can decide what is important to you and your horse(s) vs. what your barn offers. It really doesn’t matter what other crazy things have happened to you or other COTHers. Start barn shopping now and compare the pros and cons to your current barn. That’s really the only way to decide.

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Ah, boarding. I don’t miss it.

Lesson students used my saddle, brushes, and in one day fed an entire 5-lb bag of mints I had JUST bought. BO said “well it’s a lesson barn with boarders, it’s expected that your stuff will get used.”
Excuse me, no.
Same barn refused to increase my one horse’s hay and grain even though I asked them to, including asking how much it would cost me (ready to pay), constantly for two months. Then when I left they stopped giving either of them adequate hay, giving them about one flake a day, and then tried to back-charge the entire barn a “hay surcharge” for the month before because hay prices had gone up; then when I was finally gone they told people that I refused to let them feed my horse more.

I paid extra at another barn for extra hay. I had to remind the barn workers no less than five times that my horse was to get more hay. There was a sign in the hay loft they threw from. I happened to frequently be out there while they fed dinner, and would watch them consistently give her two flakes instead of four. BO was very apologetic, but geeze it isn’t hard people.

Another barn, BO had five grass fields and one dry lot, total of about five acres for 32 horses. Would only put boarded horses in the dry lot with a crappy round bale. My gelding is a dumb hard keeper. When I asked for my horse to be fed more alfalfa, he said I should get him more grain. I got my horse alfalfa cubes and the grain he suggested. It was supposed to be used as a supplemental top dress in addition to the barn grain, with clear written instructions. In three days he’d fed the entire bag of my grain, none of his. No transition. It’s a miracle my horse didn’t colic.

One barn I worked at to pay off board, he told me he just needed me to feed and turn in/out four mornings per week for free board, which I did. One of the horses that got turned out in the mornings was a night-mare who would suddenly run backwards to get away from you while walking. Long story short, after a couple weeks she’d been doing a lot better, then he changed the field she went in. Walking through knee-high snow 1000’ from the barn, I open the field gate, she rears, lands on my shoulder, and peaces out. Turned out I broke my finger and wasn’t allowed to do barn work for two weeks. BO flipped out on me and tried to make me back pay him for the previous five weeks board that I’d already worked off.

I guess my one story that’s truly drama, not just a crappy BO doing crappy BO things - gave notice for a multitude of reasons at this one barn. Once I gave notice, BO wouldn’t even glance in my direction, much less speak to me or return my texts or calls. That’s fine. So day of moving arrives, I grab a small bucket with a bit of grain to entice my horse into the trailer, he hops right on for once in his life, and is eating his little handful of grain while I load up the rest of my stuff. She walks over, silent, sticks her arm in the trailer and startles my guy, grabs the bucket, throws the grain on the floor, and stomps away. Like I wasn’t going to put your stupid $2 bucket back in the barn, lady.

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Maybe because she wants to avoid drama at her current barn? The one with the crazy owner?

OP, ignore this poster, she loves to pick on people and victimize them.

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Thank you, I wasn’t gonna posting more because of this comment.

The “crazy” barn manager/horse trainer has random extreme emotional outbursts at boarders. It doesn’t happen very often but when it does you want to crawl into a hole and die. He is very loud and public about it when a boarder or student steps out of line. Nothing violent, just a lot of yelling. The facility maintenance is okay and horse care is great for the most part. Everything is fine until you do something wrong then all hell breaks loose. Boarders/students try to stay under the radar but there is always some tension when he is around.

If the horse care wasn’t so good I would leave, but both my horses are lookin good and seem happy. I don’t lessen with him so don’t have regular contact but the people are always on edge and there is talk about a bunch of my friends taking their business elsewhere. I’m trying to figure if the horse care outweighs the random crazy behavior. He just seems to like the animals but not the people who come with them.

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Sounds like mental health issues, rage disorder, or TBI ( my all purpose reason why most horse pros are erratic in one way or another).

Only you can decide if you can stand to stay and part of that is whether you can avoid getting sucked into the time sink of processing the fallout with all the other boarders who are going to run around rabbiting on about him every time there’s an outburst.

If I had to stay in that kind of situation, personally I would prep myself for the inevitable time he launched at me, and I would snap back with a great comeback and a dont you dare ever speak to me like that again! And I would have my exit strategy researched now. And I would walk past him every day with a confident stride just daring him to make my day by launching at me.

In other words I would only stay if I genuinely felt no fear and if I could disentangle myself from those that wanted to constantly complain about him.

If that isn’t feasible, move. If he makes you anxious and you have to listen to all the boardrs complain, move.

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You know the BO’s psychological and emotional issues are a longstanding ‘thing’ at the barn when you see a 12-y-o Pony Club kid quietly ask him, “Did you take your meds today?” Then you have to decide whether you can buy into the unspoken culture of acceptance, or should start shopping for another boarding situation.

Unfortunately for everyone, it got worse. We left.

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OP, I look at barn drama this way: my life away from the barn is complicated, stressful, and involves some family members who aren’t wrapped too tight. My hours at the barn are my mini-vacation from all of that. If the barn is just more of what I’m trying to forget, having horses isn’t worth all the $$ I spend on my hobby. Those $$ are an attempt to buy me some mental health! :slight_smile: No mental health = no giving that barn my business.

Most likely, you can find good care elsewhere. Why not look for a better, more enjoyable atmosphere as well?

Don’t forget why we do this - to have fun, right?

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The challenge from my years of boarding horses (being the boarder, not the owner) is how to detect impeding BO drama before one moves in. Once you’ve moved in, IMO, the drama becomes much more obvious.

Yes, I moved from one drama to another, then out of that second drama into a small setup owned by a friend… drama free but without many of the ‘riding’ amenities but trusted her horse care implicitly.

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I think you will either need to do a secret personality study to determine how best to get along with him, and then just tough it out and manage for the best, or else move for the sake of your own peace of mind, as has been suggested.

I’m serious about the ‘personality study’, even from pop psychology sources, because these days such behaviors have been studied, categorized and written about extensively, with lots of advice for people who must live with them. With youtube videos (some are good ones, too). Examples for borderline personality, if that’s what this is. (?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJr1rc_eleg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to5qRLRSS7g

I suggest giving yourself a date certain by which to make this decision. If you keep rocking along from day-to-day, you’ll decide to leave and then change your mind, and vice versa, every week (maybe every day). But if you put a time limit on determining if this is really something you can continue to manage indefinitely, you will have more focus and more reality checks on the relative weight of the good and the bad that comes to you as a result of this association.

I’ve been fortunate with BO/BM’s, but there are definitely a few out there that fall into the category you describe, likes horses, not people! :slight_smile: One of the most meticulously constructed horse care facilities I’ve ever seen was on a gorgeous farm with an owner who categorically could not co-exist for 30 minutes with any human being other than her husband without a monumental explosion. Poor man, the husband’s life was making good all the damage she did to their working relationships with everyone they needed to help run the farm. How he stuck it out, I can’t imagine, they had been married over 20 years.

Only the horses were relaxed and happy. They had a lot to be happy about, as they lived as all horses kept in domesticity should live - nothing fancy, just sterling nutrition and care, and excellent riding and work schedules. Whatever vet care they needed, they got, no questions asked. No idea where the lady got her money to treat her horses so well and maintain the very large farm to such a standard, as I couldn’t imagine who she could work with professionally. I suspect that she has independent means.

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Also COTH should have a Barn Drama sub-forum, I think. It would be a very popular read I’m sure! :winkgrin: :smiley:

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