Beautiful show jumping stallions?

I can’t help but notice, that while jumping horses have extreme talent and all the other merits of warmblood horses, I’m wondering why they aren’t necessarily as “pretty” as other breeds or dressage horses per say. Specifically the Holsteiner heads, and even some of the other registrys seem to have rather large and “ugly” heads. Why is that?

Maybe I’m just looking at the wrong stallions… I’d love to hear all the suggestions for the “most beautiful” jumper stallions. Though scope and temperment are the most important characteristics, everyone still likes to have a pretty head :wink: I also think the head has a lot to do with the horse’s personality, and to me it is an important factor.

So name away! :smiley:

Probably because lots of the HOL horses at the UL are linebred to certain ancestors that were not necessarily known for beautiful heads but rather beautiful talent, which IMHO is more important.

A good stallion with a pretty face that comes immediately to mind is Landgraf I. I like Riverman’s head, personally, but not his brains :lol: Quite Easy is a Landgraf I descendant with a pretty head as well. Same goes for Quinar.

Now that I’m actually researching a few I think have pretty heads… maybe our taste in heads is different. I tend to love a noble head.

I agree with you on Riverman’s personality :wink:

Catoki, Catoo, Diarado,Lavita. Anyway, these are heads I think are beautiful.

Well, I don’t know that I agree with the premise, but I’d say it’s because for jumpers, pretty is as pretty does! Looks don’t matter, but jumping ability does :slight_smile: That being said, check out Livello…or Quality Time…just to name a couple

Escudo I is lovely.

I am loving all of these suggestions, and I think they are definitely all beautiful stallions! I’m just wondering what the dominance was in the genetics that favored the refined head in these stallions?

Livello has IMHO a beautiful head as did and possibly even more so his sire Limbus

What about Capone I? I think he’s lovely. http://www.nolimitfarms.com/capone/

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Livello has IMHO a beautiful head as did and possibly even more so his sire Limbus[/QUOTE]

Livello is BEAUTIFUL! I love his color too.

Escudo I is noted for throwing his “pony head,” but his progeny are also VERY smart - FYI :smiley:

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What about Capone I? I think he’s lovely. http://www.nolimitfarms.com/capone/[/QUOTE]

I would agree with this. 3 out of my 4 Capone foal have the look of the sire and a beautiful head even out of my Nabab de reve mare.

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Well, I don’t know that I agree with the premise, but I’d say it’s because for jumpers, pretty is as pretty does! Looks don’t matter, but jumping ability does :slight_smile: That being said, check out Livello…or Quality Time…just to name a couple[/QUOTE]

I agree pretty is as pretty does. My friend is a dealer in Europe and she had a couple Quality Times aged this year aged 3-5. None of them had very pretty heads and some might say they were a bit course. But man oh man could they ever jump and they were all a pleasure to deal with. Seeing them jump really made me want one, even if they didn’t look like super models. :slight_smile: They all jumped with consistent type, used their bascules incredibly well and had freakish hind ends. So I would say based off the small sample size I saw that Quality Time definitely stamps the jump of his offspring. I asked one dealer and she said she has never seen one that couldn’t jump.

Also, a pretty head is a relative term. I have a Nabab mare and I don’t mind her head at all - it’s not dish faced, but it is not offensive and nor does she have a giant roman nose. I saw Zirocco Blue at the World Cup and I didn’t find his head offensive and in fact I found him to have great presence ascetically overall. But he certainly isn’t known for his looks or to throw it.

For Holsteiners with pretty heads, I have seen some very dishy faces from the Accord II, Acorado, and Acodetto lineage. The Acodetto mare Waleska is literally a super model of a horse. Cornet Obolensky also tends to throw a typey head and so do his sons Cristallo I and Comme il Faut. Contender sons such as Capone also tend to be quite attractive and throw it.

I think the holsteiner stallion Casall Ask is one of the most beautiful jumper stallions out there, and has a pretty head.
http://phelpssports.com/content/photos/94041.jpg
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j331/elfhameOfWaters/2015-08-12%2022.15.51.jpeg

He also gives this head to his offspring! Just look at his progeny, for example his sons Casaltino, Clarcon, Cazador La Silla…

http://holsteiner-verband.de/front_content.php?idart=6356
http://holsteiner-verband.de/front_content.php?idart=5561
http://www.hipicolasilla.com/article/Article/224

I own two stallions by him and they do have this type of head. I find it really nice :slight_smile:

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I agree pretty is as pretty does. My friend is a dealer in Europe and she had a couple Quality Times aged this year aged 3-5. None of them had very pretty heads and some might say they were a bit course. But man oh man could they ever jump and they were all a pleasure to deal with. Seeing them jump really made me want one, even if they didn’t look like super models. :slight_smile: They all jumped with consistent type, used their bascules incredibly well and had freakish hind ends. So I would say based off the small sample size I saw that Quality Time definitely stamps the jump of his offspring. I asked one dealer and she said she has never seen one that couldn’t jump.

Also, a pretty head is a relative term. I have a Nabab mare and I don’t mind her head at all - it’s not dish faced, but it is not offensive and nor does she have a giant roman nose. I saw Zirocco Blue at the World Cup and I didn’t find his head offensive and in fact I found him to have great presence ascetically overall. But he certainly isn’t known for his looks or to throw it.

For Holsteiners with pretty heads, I have seen some very dishy faces from the Accord II, Acorado, and Acodetto lineage. The Acodetto mare Waleska is literally a super model of a horse. Cornet Obolensky also tends to throw a typey head and so do his sons Cristallo I and Comme il Faut. Contender sons such as Capone also tend to be quite attractive and throw it.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you that the most important quality is the scope a horse has, and I would never say no to a horse simply because they weren’t “beautiful”. But, just for fun, it is nice to study the more refined ones and see where they might have gotten it from.

I think the stallions you mentioned are gorgeous! Does anyone have a picture of Waleska?? I can’t seem to find one…

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I think the holsteiner stallion Casall Ask is one of the most beautiful jumper stallions out there, and has a pretty head.
http://phelpssports.com/content/photos/94041.jpg
http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j331/elfhameOfWaters/2015-08-12%2022.15.51.jpeg

He also gives this head to his offspring! Just look at his progeny, for example his sons Casaltino, Clarcon, Cazador La Silla…

http://holsteiner-verband.de/front_content.php?idart=6356
http://holsteiner-verband.de/front_content.php?idart=5561
http://www.hipicolasilla.com/article/Article/224

I own two stallions by him and they do have this type of head. I find it really nice :)[/QUOTE]

Love it!

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I agree with you that the most important quality is the scope a horse has, and I would never say no to a horse simply because they weren’t “beautiful”. But, just for fun, it is nice to study the more refined ones and see where they might have gotten it from.

I think the stallions you mentioned are gorgeous! Does anyone have a picture of Waleska?? I can’t seem to find one…[/QUOTE]

Go to http://www.stall-haep.be/zuchtstuten.php and scroll all the way to the bottom and you will find Waleska. My friend bred a mare that was average looking to Acodetto and the result was a filly that was significantly more attractive than her dam.

Casall is very handsome and one of the best sires in the world, if not the best. But if the dam is not a looker, I wouldn’t guarantee Casall would improve the head. Caretino (Casall’s father) was known for throwing a bit of a roman nose. I own a grandson of Casall and he is an attractive colt, but he does have a bit of roman nose and it is not from his dam. The Caretino definitely came through in his face.

As to Cristallo I, I have never seen one that was not attractive and similar with Acodetto I. The Cornet Obolensky son Cobolensky has an extremely attractive head and type. There are photos of Cobolensky at the HV http://holsteiner-verband.de/front_content.php?idart=7528

Viscount (Valentino x Acorado) is another extremely attractive stallion. He is young and I haven’t seen any of his offspring, so time will only tell if he passes it on. http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallions/Viscount.shtml . Valentino and Acorado are both known for throwing gorgeous offspring, so it comes as a no surprise Viscount is ridiculously good looking.

There is a Coronet Obolensky grandson in the US, Coronet D’Honneur, who is lovely & lovely to look at!

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There is a Coronet Obolensky grandson in the US, Coronet D’Honneur, who is lovely & lovely to look at![/QUOTE]

Oh la la, I’m drooling!

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Go to http://www.stall-haep.be/zuchtstuten.php and scroll all the way to the bottom and you will find Waleska. My friend bred a mare that was average looking to Acodetto and the result was a filly that was significantly more attractive than her dam.

Casall is very handsome and one of the best sires in the world, if not the best. But if the dam is not a looker, I wouldn’t guarantee Casall would improve the head. Caretino (Casall’s father) was known for throwing a bit of a roman nose. I own a grandson of Casall and he is an attractive colt, but he does have a bit of roman nose and it is not from his dam. The Caretino definitely came through in his face.

As to Cristallo I, I have never seen one that was not attractive and similar with Acodetto I. The Cornet Obolensky son Cobolensky has an extremely attractive head and type. There are photos of Cobolensky at the HV http://holsteiner-verband.de/front_content.php?idart=7528

Viscount (Valentino x Acorado) is another extremely attractive stallion. He is young and I haven’t seen any of his offspring, so time will only tell if he passes it on. http://www.superiorequinesires.com/stallions/Viscount.shtml . Valentino and Acorado are both known for throwing gorgeous offspring, so it comes as a no surprise Viscount is ridiculously good looking.[/QUOTE]

Waleska IS beautiful!