Clever! Yeah I can see how that would work. Is there enough on the front, such that you could put a surcingle around it to keep it in place if a horse moved? I guess I’d be worried that they’d spook or shift, and my $6k blanket would end up under the horse.
Actually, even if it wound up under the horse, I’m not sure it could be easily damaged. It’s pretty sturdy and the battery is housed in a heavy duty plastic container. I think if a horse stepped on it, he would step off quickly.
And yes … it comes w a surcingle. When the blanket is on properly it fits like a girth. One could take it off and use it to hold the bemer on the way I have it…I just don’t😀.
Right, I’ve used them a bunch so I’m familiar with how they are normally fitted. I think I wasn’t being clear - when you have it on the way you do, dangling to fall over the stifle, is there enough blanket left by the front of the barrel in order to fit a surcingle and hold it in place. I agree it’s sturdy and well built, but because horses (especially my horse) I would just assume disaster is imminent 
But thank you for sharing your idea/process! Great idea
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The velcro Against_All_Odds has stuck the cuff to is to hold the two pieces of the blanket together - the length of the blanket can be adjusted. That said, I do know other Bemer users who do the same thing.
Here’s my picture of my cuff on the leg strap. First for colic, second rigged for stifle.
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Both great ideas. Thank you!
I love it! Very clever. Would be nice if the design just went low enough to get the stifles and lower parts of the core, anyway, but this seems like a great workaround. Thanks for sharing!
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Excelent and innovative ideas, y’all. Thank you for the ideas and pictures!
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I velcro the cuff together and use those over the neck–no need to buy the neck wrap…
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I had wondered about this. Originally I was contemplating buying just the neck wrap and draping it over a back. I do think I could benefit from the neck wrap as well so I could use the whole blanket + neck + cuffs on the stifles. Should just about get all the ailments at once. Then occasionally throw the cuffs on the legs of those who need some help there. But it seems all my issues are up high.
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Personally, I’d buy an extra set of cuffs before I would buy the neck wrap….but
if I didn’t already have a cold laser, I’d buy the bemer set and a cold laser
Can I ask why it’s a ‘no’ to the neck wrap? I had been told that the neck wrap is a higher intensity than the blanket? I think that was the intrigue. But I’m leaning on y’all who on the things since I have very little experience with it all. Legit, this is the most comprehensive conversation I’ve had with anyone(s) on the topic.
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As someone said above, the leg cuffs are 3x the blanket intensity, so same/same. I’d rather have an extra set of leg cuffs, so I could use all four on the lower legs, then on neck and stifles at the same time. I don’t need to lay anything on my horse’s back because I have the blanket.
A cold laser is super useful for focused therapy. The one I have has been really helpful and I used it on myself when I had ankle surgery…and on my dog when he pulled his stifle.
But hey, if I had all the bank, I would buy the neck cover AND an extra set of cuffs. 
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Great point. Do you mind sharing info on your cold laser? I have been wanting to research these as well but that’s a rabbit hole of sooo many options.
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I bought mine about 8 years ago, so it might not be the best and brightest. Mine is a Terraquant TQ Solo. TQ Solo | Multi Radiance Super Pulsed Cold Laser – Cold Laser Supplies
It cost a lot of money when I bought it. But I have been intrigued (if I had to replace it) with this one: 3B Cold Laser - Sport Innovations | FarmVet It is also a 3b laser but a lot less expensive.
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Strange that they don’t have much detail on the 3B Cold Laser - Sport Innovations | FarmVet specs. Barring something special about it that I can’t see, you could save even more and get one like this: https://100xequine.com/pages/equilaser (this is the one I have)
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Ooooh following this closely. I could feasibly talk myself in to this. What class is it (I may have over looked this)?
Edited to add: I didn’t scroll down far enough. I see it is a 3B.
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@Feathered_Feet @Cowgirl and anyone else. Considering the conversation has taken me down a bit of a rabbit hole.
Can we compare and contrast lower intensity red light therapy (610-660 nm) to an actual laser device? I’ve looked in to red light neck and back pads for the KS horse but holy $$$. Also would need multiple devices for multiple body parts. On the other hand, red light wraps and pads come with the same convenience of a Bemer; set it and leave it. But… a hand held device is a one stop shop for multiple body areas. So I guess I answered my own question there haha.
Is there a certain wavelength that is more appropriate than another? I guess the higher the wave length, the deeper it’ll penetrate. But probably don’t need anything beyond a 3B? I have no idea what the certification process looks like for higher intensity lasers, but the way I understand it, they’re not exactly necessary either. My chiropractor offered to sell me one of hers, so even she uses lasers that the average layperson can obtain.
I guess I’m looking for justification that a class 3B would be appropriate for the moderate train wrecks that I have.
I have myself a science degree and STILL don’t understand wave lengths and what they do in this application 
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I am certainly not this kind of scientist, so my understanding is also pretty rudimentary, but I’ll share what I know (and take it with a grain of salt).
Red and infrared therapy devices are laser therapy devices, just generally much, much lower powerful. Red/infrared light and cold laser are the same thing (per my understanding).
What makes class 3B lasers (these cheap ~$500 ones anyone can buy) different from class 4 lasers (in the thousands of dollars range, and require training/certification) is the power. Class 3b lasers are much safer because they are much less powerful than the class 4 lasers. Class 4s can absolutely burn you if you’re a dingus about it. Class 3B are weak enough that they are generally considered safe enough to put right on your face for cosmetic reasons, provided you keep your eyes closed and ideally wear some goggles (look up “red light mask” for example).
The 650 nm & 808 nm wavelengths tend to be the ones best supported by the research (though I haven’t looked into it in a while, so could be new research out there). Basically what red/infrared is known to do, mechanistically speaking, is increase cell proliferation and turnover (which is why it’s so great for cosmetic purposes, and theoretically not recommended for anything cancerous, although I think that research is mixed).
Re: penetration, I don’t think the class 3b’s go very deep, and I don’t know how deep the class 4s go. For instance, my vet commented that my class 3b probably wouldn’t be that useful for our suspensory injury, given that the ligament was a centimeter under the skin. I think they are really best suited for topical stuff. That being said, I have a small pad that I use on my back, but it’s hard to tell how much it’s the light penetrating, versus just the bit of heat it generates that’s helping.
Practically speaking, I find holding a tiny little laser on a spot for anything more than 10 min to be a waste of my time. So I’ll do it for 10-15 min on a superficial would of some sort, but I’m not going to sit there and do my horse’s whole back. For a stifle, if my horse were not at rehab, I’d probably spend 10 minutes a day holding it. Can’t hurt, might help. Even if it doesn’t hit the injury itself (depending on depth), it can only help the surrounding tissue.
I would also say the Bemer is a world apart. The convenience of set it and forget it while you do barn chores is hard to beat. But for $400, a little hand held red light device is nice to have around for when you need it. I use mine on myself all the time 
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