[QUOTE=beowulf;8510657]
holy fruitbat – why the snark? i wasn’t mocking you at all - not sure where you got that from my post.
i’m glad the method worked for your one horse. but that is one horse. if we are being fair “just standing there” is part of training 101, which starts on the ground. however, not all horses tolerate just being told to STAND there without training, especially not OTTBs. i’ve sat on more than one fresh off the track TB who just could not stand still – and if you tried to make them, they would rear. IMHO it is dangerous to pick a fight like that without installing the basics first, which you would need to do before you just pulled a book up and crawled on a horse. most OTTBs right off the track would crawl out of their skin if you were holding something in hand U/S while asking them to stand… your post was a good contribution, but it’s fair to point out that you can’t just clamber onto a horse with a book and expect them to be quiet - that’s a really dangerous situation for the average rider.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TrailRides4Fun;8510556]I have been dealing with my ‘over the top’ anxious horse for quite some time,
(6 years to be exact).
I take EVERY opportunity to find interesting and creative
ways to help him relax,
and make our interactions enjoyable and CALM.
I realize that you are 'mocking ’ my methodology, which is fine,
but it actually works for me and my horse.
I will read aloud so when he hears my voice, he can hear a
relaxed tone.
So far, with this horse, ALL of the various calm down exercises
I have used, have worked.
OP rides frequently (5x a week).
I think thats A LOT of drill, drill, drill.
My suggestion is not so much about drill, which probably heightens the horse’s anxiety bc its always work, work, work, and nothing different.
Make the work time more enjoyable by not having the horse actually work.
Like Ray Hunt always said, make the horse your partner.
Think HARMONY with horses.
Really, the lack of creativity is sad, Beowulf.
Trying something different, that I didn’t read in a training manual,
doesn’t mean it doesn’t have merit.
Sorry, my thinking ‘outside of the box’ is so unusual for many
COTH members.
Good luck OP, I hope you find my suggestions helpful ;)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=quietann;8510579]I don’t think beowulf meant what she said in an insulting way, but she was reminding us, and you, that sitting on a horse while just “standing around” can be dangerous if the horse suddenly spooks. It’s an extension of the fact that mounting and dismounting are among the most dangerous times for a rider, as is very relaxed walking (think Courtney King-Dye.)
It works for you; that’s fine. But I’d be scared to not keep my focus on a “nervy” horse like what’s being talked about here. (Then again, something that nervy would not be a good match for me!)[/QUOTE]
Lots of good points everywhere here, and I think much of the stylistic differences between posters may have to do with their horses’ inherent tendencies.
You’ve really just got to know whether you’ve got a horse that is hot/reactive but settles with boundaries, or hot/reactive and explodes in confinement. If Option A is the horse you’re sitting on, absolutely learning patience is the way to go. If Option B is the one you’ve saddled up, you’d be better off getting it moving at a very consistent tempo with very nuanced changes of figure and bend and it will be much more likely to relax than if you asked it to stand still.
That doesn’t mean that a method is WRONG. Just that it’s not as effective for a certain horse. Oh, and for extra fun: the ride you need to provide may change from day-to-day. Hurray dressage, am I right?