I am going to replace my current horse runs because I have one horse that has been super hard on the fencing and also figured out how to remove the rails (they are removeable) and has ruined the hardware on the brackets. He gets in the stalls with the other horses. What would be the best type of fencing for my runs t they are only 12 foot wide (60 feet long) and I don’t really want to whot wire them. I have looked at Buckly Fencing, but it is super expensive and I’m not sure he couldn’t destroy it. I am thinking about welded pipe, but not sure how to configure it to avoid injury from it, what thickness or type. I think he might break wood fencing rather quickly.
is this a PVC fence? if so are the post caps still removable?
The reason I am asking this there is a simple way to lock PVC Rails to a Post by removing the cap then using a drill bit designed for the alarm/cable industry you can drill down threw the end of the rails inside the post then insert a 9 ga wire normally use to tie off ceil grid panels for a drop ceiling …simple task works well and can be reversed if need to replace a rail. Just take of the post cap then pull the retaining rod out
Never seen or heard of the " Buckly Fencing", I did look at their web site… question I would have for them what do they do about grounding the steel fence as an electrical charge can run for miles on an ungrounded/earth ground steel fence
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Have you tried good solid posts and horse safe pipe panels?
That is what we have used for over 50 years and have yet to have a horse tear those down and had very few injuries, one when a horse laid down and stuck legs thru it and pulled a muscle on a front leg getting up.
Most of our panels are horse Powder River ones.
The advantage of portable panels, you can move them around as you need.
If you go with panels, be sure they are high enough for horses and with the right distances between horizontal pipes. Horse panels are strong enough to hold horses in, but not so strong if a horse hits hard they don’t have any give and a horse can get hurt on them, or so weak a hit will break them.
Our best horse pens, where we kept our stallions next to each other, were 2 7/8’ pipe post at 8’, same pipe along the top and V-mesh wire.
Nothing ever got hurt there and after over 75 years still look like new.
They can’t be moved easily, wherever you put them they will stay, unlike portable panels and over years there will be times you may want to change your settings.
I agree with you that in small pens electric is not so good, horses can get anxious about walking around where they may get shocked, unless is set very high up there.
Electric added to fencing is great, we use it on barbed wire fencing in large pastures, helps a horse respect fences, but they have room to move away from it.
Not so much in tiny pens, they are caught in there and that makes it at times hard to avoid getting shocked if not paying close attention all the time.
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I would go with round pen panels. Or steel tubing panels.
You could mount them to wooden posts. We did this in the dry lot/ working area for our cows. You can see it in the background. These are solid steel panels that a welding place down the road makes.
No more expensive than traditional horse round pen panels but much stronger.
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What kind of fence do you have that the horse is able to “remove” the rails? Something more secure, like welded pipe, sounds like it is in order. At only 12’ wide, the runs are a bit narrow for my comfort, but I understand that sometimes we have to work with what we have…If the runs were wider, I’d say electric wire was for sure called for.
I have my runs fenced with 5 rail Nobel panels bolted to treated round wood posts. Looks and works great.
We went with 3 rail pipe with 4’ gates, it works, no issues, except when my old horse died in the paddock, it was very difficult and not pretty to have to get his body out, in retrospect a bigger gate would have been preferable. The fence guy wanted to do 4 rails but the distance between the rails was just enough for a head or leg to get caught in.
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No, it is a square iron rail that has cups on the ends that fit into a keyhole braket screwed onto posts. I’ve never seen these before, but they were great until I got the Tiny Wrecking Ball Einstein who learned how to jiggle them loose and remove the rails to climb into my other horses’ stalls. I loved them because they were removeable and it was easy to scrape out the runs and replace the stone dust every other year. The tiny brat (he is 16 hands now as a long two year old) has also bent the rails and his jiggling has caused the top nail hole on the keyhole brackets to break.
Those look awesome!!! I am getting 12’ gates at the end of my runs to make it easier to strip out the footing when needed.
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Do you know how high off the ground (so they can’t get cast under them)?
as a temporary repair (that can be a finial repair) you could use an epoxy to weld the rail into the socket.
https://www.jbweld.com/product/j-b-weld-twin-tube
Are the rails hollow? If so a steel aircraft cable (also known as wire rope) could be run inside the rails. This would be a lot of work however the cable could be tighten to clamp the rails into the posts
I suspect my solution if this was my problem I would be use a tig welder to weld the rails to the post
https://www.millerwelds.com/resources/article-library/tig-it-how-a-tig-welder-works-and-when-to-tig-weld
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