Best sales websites Eventers?

[Tannic_Mountain]

I have a great, and I mean A++ great, colt I’m trying to sell and the online websites really aren’t getting me any bites. Super gorgeous BUCKSKIN colt, Jockey Club registered Thoroughbred. Anyone know of any good sites to advertise an Eventer prospect? I’ve tried Facebook, but it seems like no one wants to spend more than five thousand on an upper level prospect nowadays.

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[beowulf]

Facebook… and word of mouth… Most breeders I know these days are posting their horses on FB rather than on private websites. Generates much more interest, easily shareable, and there’s no end of groups to put advertisements in.

If you’re really serious about this horse as a top level athlete, get him into a BNT program and have them sell him for you.

What is his pedigree…? What makes him UL eventer material…? Are either of his parents UL eventers?

I saw in your other post that you said this colt “This colt trumps a lot of other Thoroughbreds when it comes to bone, topline, and overall angles.”… Have you seen the Keeneland sales/yearling sales…? This looks like a nice colt but he’s not anything different than many of the very nice TB yearlings that go through that sale. Does he move well?

Check out this video glossary of some very nice TBs…
https://www.keeneland.com/livevideo/sales/videowithcat.php

Very hard to sell a TB colt for more than 5 figures for a non-racing career. Several of my WB breeding friends have a hard time getting their top class foals out of impeccable damlines sold for that…

Everyone wants to buy a foal on the cheap because they think they are “unproven” – but class isn’t cheap!

[Equkelly]

You know the comma doesn’t count as a figure right?

[RacetrackReject]

I could be wrong, and I’m sure someone will correct me if I am, but I don’t think anyone is going to pay over 5 figures for an unstarted, purpose bred TB these days. I don’t think anyone is paying over 5 figures for FEH horses and they at least have a record of some sort. YEH, ok, I can see that as those guys are going under saddle and doing the job they are intended to do, but an unproven purebred TB with likely unproven lines? Not so much.

The only unstarted prospects that I see going for over 5 figures are those by mega well-known winners and out of bloodlines of multiple winning parents. Color is generally not a factor for serious eventers.

******Original post was changed from over 5 figures to 5 thousand, which is a big difference.

[beowulf]

@Equkelly

You know the comma doesn’t count as a figure right?

There really is no need to be condescending.I see you already responded in OP’s other thread…

For a real UL event prospect, as in by or out of a horse/pair that has competed at the UL, you can assume they don’t come for cheap. I am not sure we have enough information here to figure out of this horse is a top class prospect, but he’s certainly not a nag either. He looks like a nice colt.

I am assuming this is the colt -
https://www.tannicmountainfarm.com/copy-of-earthshine

And this is his pedigree -
https://www.pedigreequery.com/contego

The sire side AFAIK, has never produced any UL offspring.

However, Oxbow and Awesome Again are very nice, and I have seen offspring by them that moved quite well and went for $5k+ right from the track.

Purge hasn’t made much of a name for himself in sport, but Pulpit is known for being game eventers. Forty Niner + Cox’s Ridge were both horses known for staying ability in the old format.

[EventingChase]

More then 5 figures? Like, you want $100,000 for him?
I guess get him to a TB race horse auction and see what happens. If he’s an exceptional prospect in terms of breeding, there you might be able to grab 6 figures.

[Equkelly]

@beowulf

There really is no need to be condescending.I see you already responded in OP’s other thread…

For a real UL event prospect, as in by or out of a horse/pair that has competed at the UL, you can assume they don’t come for cheap. I am not sure we have enough information here to figure out of this horse is a top class prospect, but he’s certainly not a nag either. He looks like a nice colt.

I’m genuinely confused. FOUR figures I could maybe see if we’re talking about the low end. But 5 is… either a mistake or a delusion. I’m afraid OP might be one of those that thinks breeding for color and not performance is a good plan. Just a guess though…

[beowulf]

@Equkelly

I’m genuinely confused. FOUR figures I could maybe see if we’re talking about the low end. But 5 is… either a mistake or a delusion. I’m afraid OP might be one of those that thinks breeding for color and not performance is a good plan. Just a guess though…

And still condescending.

4 figures = X,XXX
5 figures is = XX,XXX

Five figures could mean anything from 10k to 99k.

For a real UL prospect, 10k is not astronomical. I see young WBs go for 12k-30k+, most private sales so I am not privy to exact pricing… the breeder I bought my filly from sells most of hers in utero for 15-20k…

Eventing prospects, it really depends. It is less about the breed and more about who the parents are. If you had a daughter of FischerRocana (50% TB) or Sam (100% TB) they’d go for five figures easily, and not the short end either. I doubt Quadracana was sub 5 figures… but YMMV.

The problem is more or less, if a race bred foal can go for those figures. An eventing bred foal certainly could, but if this foal is Snowy River x Oxbow, it is very unlikely – as the average UL rider has no idea who those names are.

But if it was Acatenango xx (or Ituango) X Mill Reef xx… Both are 100% TBs… and if there was ever a foal by that pairing, you bet it went for five figures to a discerning event home.

[Tannic_Mountain]

My apologies,
I guess I have made a typo. It was an honest mistake. I have edited the main post.

[beowulf]

@Tannic Mountain

My apologies,
I guess I have made a typo. It was an honest mistake. I have edited the main post.

Ah, that clarifies much of it.

I think you might find that this is the main reason breeding is a labor of love, and no one is in it for the money…

[Equkelly]

@beowulf

And still condescending.

4 figures = X,XXX
5 figures is = XX,XXX

Five figures could mean anything from 10k to 99k.

For a real UL prospect, 10k is not astronomical. I see young WBs go for 12k-30k+, most private sales so I am not privy to exact pricing… the breeder I bought my filly from sells most of hers in utero for 15-20k…

Eventing prospects, it really depends. It is less about the breed and more about who the parents are. If you had a daughter of FischerRocana (50% TB) or Sam (100% TB) they’d go for five figures easily, and not the short end either. I doubt Quadracana was sub 5 figures… but YMMV.

The problem is more or less, if a race bred foal can go for those figures. An eventing bred foal certainly could, but if this foal is Snowy River x Oxbow, it is very unlikely – as the average UL rider has no idea who those names are.

But if it was Acatenango xx (or Ituango) X Mill Reef xx… Both are 100% TBs… and if there was ever a foal by that pairing, you bet it went for five figures to a discerning event home.

Yes but OP said ABOVE 5 figures which would mean > 99,000. That to me sounds like a mistake or delusion.

[Brown_Derby]

@Tannic Mountain

My apologies,
I guess I have made a typo. It was an honest mistake. I have edited the main post.

My apologies as well. I read that you wanted $100,000, i.e., above $99K. Good luck, he looks like a sweet guy.

[Tannic_Mountain]

Thank you all!
I have some great websites and suggestions from this. I appreciate it greatly. The typo was an honest mistake that I hope we can all look past that! Just trying to get this colt in an excellent home, and it is understood that he is unproven. He’s a weanling. His price reflects that. Although, his sire was exported overseas to Germany and is being bred to Warmbloods for sport. Dam had racing plates on that could have fit a small pony when she came to us. She has normal size feet. This colt was bred for conformation and movement, which is more to say than most. Color is a plus and is a factor for someone looking for a stallion prospect whether they like it or not. He can sire buckskins, palominos, smoky blacks, cremellos, perlinos, and smoky creams to name a few. A lot of color breeders have given horses a bad rap, but there is no shame in breeding nice colors if the horses conformation, soundness, and movement is competitive with the breed’s highest standards.

Sire of this colt sold for five figures. That is not a typo.

This colt’s price reflects the fact that he is a serious prospect, yet unproven. The price I have him at is competitive with what I have seen online, and if he’s going to do what I think he will with the right partner, he will earn it back 100x over. But, I do not have the connections to place him in a good home, which is my highest priority.

This is is why I have asked you all for help! Thank you!

[Jealoushe]

I agree with the comments from @beowulf . Even for $5,000, nothing in the pedigree screams UL horse to me. Even without buying the pedigree, TB babies are not selling for that unless racing.

To put it in perspective, I had a gelding with a very similar line to yours that was given to me free as a yearling. Nothing wrong with him, he was Palomino and stunning but no one wanted to pay and so the guy had enough waiting and agreed to just re home to a good home and he knew I wanted him but couldn’t afford the asking price at that time. I sold him a few years later because of some personal issues and then he was resold as a hunter for some big bucks. He was very cute and clearly nothing wrong at all but he was completely unproven. His brother was also basically dumped for free as a 2 year old.

Most who want TBs are not the type to care about the colour. They are going to look at pedigree and build over colour every time. Those who want colour aren’t usually wanting TBs. Not saying that is always the case but majority.

You might have better luck with a horse broker who has a large sales clientele to market to.

[beowulf]

@Equkelly

Yes but OP said ABOVE 5 figures which would mean > 99,000. That to me sounds like a mistake or delusion.

It could also mean 11k. No need to be hyperbolic, lol.

[Bent_Hickory]

@Moderator 1

Again, am I the only one who thinks this is a poorly disguised sales ad (the photo might just give it away)?

[DGEventing]

As an UL eventer who is always looking, color doesn’t mean anything to me. If buying this young, I’m looking at conformation, movement, pedigree. What makes this a true UL prospect? I see so many people advertising ‘upper level prospect’, it seems that it is just a random “zing” term sellers flash around to bump up price.

As far as where to sell, I think social media and word of mouth are your best options. Although something this young is going to be tough without siblings with proven records.

[Jealoushe]

@Bent Hickory

@Moderator 1

Again, am I the only one who thinks this is a poorly disguised sales ad (the photo might just give it away)?

I did too. @Moderator 1 can you approve my post? It was marked as spam.