I have a 7 y/o Thoroughbred by Fastness IRE, great mind, so-so movement, and pretty good jump (free jumps 4’6", have only jumped her myself 4’), decent conformation. What would be a good match for a horse that needs better movement and better conformation? I plan on using the baby for Jumpers, but I also may event so having nice movement is pretty important. Price is not an issue. Preferably warmblood, but any sort of sport horse will do!
Thanks.
Edit: Not irish, just of irish decent!
My first instinct would be to look at Trakehners.
Its a bit of a tough crowd around here so its kind of important to get your breeding terminology correct. You mare is by Fastness not “out of”. Foals are “out of” a mare and “by” a stallion.
Fastness (Ire) is by the American bred Rousillon who is by the American stallion Riverman. Rousillon was bought as a yearling in this country for Prince Khalid bin Abdullah of Saudi Arabia Juddmonte Farm in the early 80s when he was just “starting out” and before he built his Kentucky based farm. Rouslillon was a Group 1 winner in France and was retired to stand at the British National Stud. Fastness was foaled in Ireland hence the (Ire). Stakes winner Group placed in France bought by Evergreen Farm to race in this country. I am sure he exceeded expectation and went on to be a Grade 1 winner here.
Retired to stud in Kentucky but was not very popular. Not surprising he was a rather big and rangy type that has fallen out of favor. His distaff, dam side would not be very recognizable to American breeders. He was sold and stood in PA for a while and I believe he ended up in Canada.
Riverman was a very good sire and a good broodmare sire in his day. Riverman tended to “stamp” his get with a high, prominent wither and also on the rangy side of things. Rousillon dam sire Troy IMO would add to this. Troy was also a very respected sire and broodmare sire.
I never saw any foals by Fastness so I am of no help there. Your mare is by an Irish bred stallion but unless she was bred in Ireland she is not an “Irish OTTB”.
I am sure people will chime in with some suggestions but you need to do a bit more work and provide a 5 cross bloodline. Meaning he “blood” pedigree, 5 generations of her top line, (sire line) and her bottom line (dams line). This can be had for free from the Jockey Club’s Equineline.
https://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm
If you are not sure how to go about this just ask. Or give us her Jockey Club name and someone will pull it up for you and provide a link.
Or use http://www.pedigreequery.com/ though this is user based and not always accurate.
Hope this helps.
PS. IMO any horse that can jump 4’ nicely is more than “pretty good” in my book.
I think it’s impossible to give meaningful stallion recommendations without the mare’s pedigree, a video of the mare in movement, and a conformation photo.
Might check out ISH stallion Jack of Hearts who is SF x Irish Draught. His Sire King of Hearts RID was a GP jumper. Jack events with a Jr. rider.
http://www.treasurestateequestrian.com/jack-of-hearts.html
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/jack+of+hearts8
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Its a bit of a tough crowd around here so its kind of important to get your breeding terminology correct. You mare is by Fastness not “out of”. Foals are “out of” a mare and “by” a stallion.
Fastness (Ire) is by the American bred Rousillon who is by the American stallion Riverman. Rousillon was bought as a yearling in this country for Prince Khalid bin Abdullah of Saudi Arabia Juddmonte Farm in the early 80s when he was just “starting out” and before he built his Kentucky based farm. Rouslillon was a Group 1 winner in France and was retired to stand at the British National Stud. Fastness was foaled in Ireland hence the (Ire). Stakes winner Group placed in France bought by Evergreen Farm to race in this country. I am sure he exceeded expectation and went on to be a Grade 1 winner here.
Retired to stud in Kentucky but was not very popular. Not surprising he was a rather big and rangy type that has fallen out of favor. His distaff, dam side would not be very recognizable to American breeders. He was sold and stood in PA for a while and I believe he ended up in Canada.
Riverman was a very good sire and a good broodmare sire in his day. Riverman tended to “stamp” his get with a high, prominent wither and also on the rangy side of things. Rousillon dam sire Troy IMO would add to this. Troy was also a very respected sire and broodmare sire.
I never saw any foals by Fastness so I am of no help there. Your mare is by an Irish bred stallion but unless she was bred in Ireland she is not an “Irish OTTB”.
I am sure people will chime in with some suggestions but you need to do a bit more work and provide a 5 cross bloodline. Meaning he “blood” pedigree, 5 generations of her top line, (sire line) and her bottom line (dams line). This can be had for free from the Jockey Club’s Equineline.
https://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm
If you are not sure how to go about this just ask. Or give us her Jockey Club name and someone will pull it up for you and provide a link.
Or use http://www.pedigreequery.com/ though this is user based and not always accurate.
Hope this helps.
PS. IMO any horse that can jump 4’ nicely is more than “pretty good” in my book.[/QUOTE]
Ha! I know I know nothing :lol: ! But thank you for the info and advice!
https://www.equineline.com/Free-5X-Pedigree.cfm/Fool%20Me%20Nice?page_state=DISPLAY_REPORT&reference_number=8604154®istry=T&horse_name=Fool%20Me%20Nice&dam_name=Lost%20Wolf&foaling_year=2009&include_sire_line=Y
Here is her pedigree, I only have a few photos of her jump, but have not upload any of her confirmation yet!
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