Best way to cover/bury anchor lines securing a run in shed

[Frog_Pond]

Oh, what the heck: OP, I’ve posted on here many times about how the process of building a barn drove me bananas. I asked many questions that I thought were simple and got many long, convoluted non-answers from contractors, city officials, and so on. And the bills, oohhh, I am still paying for the changes & upgrades & last-minute-disaster-fixes. I regularly had to choose between Horribly Expensive Option A and, oh, hey, that’s the only option, actually. It upset me (cough, understatement). I did some yelling.:eek: Horizon is lovely and so is my barn, but, I’m pretty sure a siren goes off in their office when I call so they can all dive under their desks :lol:.

So, your simple question does have a simple answer, it just sucks for you.
Welcome to the club:). We’re broke from fixing things so our horses don’t kill themselves, but, we can sleep at night knowing we did our best. It’s worth the price of admission. Protest all you want – I sure did, no shame or blame here! – but, do join us.

[vxf111]

Update, in case anyone was following…

I called Horizon and told them that everyone seemed to think the earth anchors were an inappropriate product for the use. They disagreed but were very good about everything. They insist they can be used for this purpose, they’re not a hazard, etc. They insist (politely).

Someone PMed me with a workable idea for burying the lines a bit deeper than shown and putting a concrete apron on top. I was all set to do that.

The concrete contractor (wonderful!) show up to do the aisle, took a look, and offered to remove the earth anchors, set 4 rods with eyehooks in concrete, and bolt the 4 corners of the shed to those 4 rods. So that’s what he did.

Horizon agreed to refund me for the earth anchors and I am sending them back.

Horses have been out with no issue, though I do intend to cover the concrete corners a bit for aestetics.

[Bluey]

Good, that is the same principle to what we do, dig a post hole, drop a chain with something across the bottom, like an old rod or bolt, then pour concrete mix and weld or bolt the part of the chain that sticks out of the hole to the corner of the shed right there.

Works fine, never had one of those pull up and it is safely out of the way.

We also add some dirt on the corner, that is a good idea.

[crosscreeksh]

[QUOTE=vxf111;8665493]
Update, in case anyone was following…

I called Horizon and told them that everyone seemed to think the earth anchors were an inappropriate product for the use. They disagreed but were very good about everything. They insist they can be used for this purpose, they’re not a hazard, etc. They insist (politely).

Someone PMed me with a workable idea for burying the lines a bit deeper than shown and putting a concrete apron on top. I was all set to do that.

The concrete contractor (wonderful!) show up to do the aisle, took a look, and offered to remove the earth anchors, set 4 rods with eyehooks in concrete, and bolt the 4 corners of the shed to those 4 rods. So that’s what he did.

Horizon agreed to refund me for the earth anchors and I am sending them back.

Horses have been out with no issue, though I do intend to cover the concrete corners a bit for aestetics.[/QUOTE]

Congrats on a safer, workable solution!! Not all contractors have “Horse Sense”!!!

[TheJenners]

gumtree, since I’m building a farm in the here-n-now, how do you like Bluey’s method?? We get wind storms in the 40-90 mph range. My current plan is the Nobel Panel 12x12 three-side structures, not the frame I put wood into but the kind with the same type of siding as my Barnmaster barn, sort of a pebbly feeling composite? NO CLUE what it is haha. But augering or digging holes and dropping chain and pouring cement is something I can probably do.

[gumtree]

[QUOTE=TheJenners;8738364]
gumtree, since I’m building a farm in the here-n-now, how do you like Bluey’s method?? We get wind storms in the 40-90 mph range. My current plan is the Nobel Panel 12x12 three-side structures, not the frame I put wood into but the kind with the same type of siding as my Barnmaster barn, sort of a pebbly feeling composite? NO CLUE what it is haha. But augering or digging holes and dropping chain and pouring cement is something I can probably do.[/QUOTE]

It will accomplish the same thing as what I suggested as long as the “hole” is deep enough to provide the necessary “hold down” strength. It will also depend on the type of soil, the surrounding compaction that will dictate the anchors shear strength.

A lot of people under estimate the power/strength of wind. It doesn’t have to be even close to what you have described. It depends on the size,surface area of the structure.

I have a heavy steel mesh gate that is on the windward side of a fence line. It doesn’t take much of a gust to whip it open.

It doesn’t take a big sail to move a very heavy sailboat 15-20 knots. So even a sizable, heavy shed can easily be moved if not blown over from a 40 mph gust if not less. If the area is pron to “micro burst” strong fast moving thunder storms it better be well secured.

I have several heavy wood roll top jumps in my ring that have been blown a 100 feet in just an average storm. They have a fraction of the surface area.

I have worked at farm and or helped install pre-made run-ins for friends who want to move them around from time to time. They can be moved/dragged quite easily. Securing them the way I suggested makes this very easy. Unbolt move and pull the “stakes”.

[gumtree]

[QUOTE=clanter;8632580]
eas![](est fastest way, get bags of concrete mix and lay on top of the cables, just leave the bags complete as time goes by the concrete hardens the bags wear away just leaving the concrete…which could be removed when ever needed

this wall was built of stacked concrete bags in 1988… still looks the same today

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I haven’t revisited this thread since my last post.

I don’t think I would do it this way either. At least not with my very inquisitive horses. They would paw, play with the bags in short order and spread the concrete all over the place long before it hardens.

[TheJenners]

Thank you gumtree