I am looking for anyone that’s used either of these bits or one similar? I have an OTTB that has a tie forward at New Bolton at 3 years at the end of his brief 5 race career. He had good connections who sent him for consult and did the procedure. He’s also got DDSP and epiglottic entrapment and has been scoped to confirm the tie forward is holding well and that he’s got a truly patent airway to do said job/workload. He’s got several allergies being addressed with immunotherapy. He displaces at rest, but only makes noise with a bit in his mouth. He does not roar, but has a funky noise that is almost like a rhythmical billowing. I’ve experimented with a 21mm HS Duo, HM Mullen and a loose ring with the fat bean made by stubben, which he hates anything that has a broken mouth. I’ve recently been riding him in a rope halter at home and will work without any noise. I’ve also explored the idea of a leather bit, almost a meroth without the strap. He’s very well broke to my seat and aides and is literally the softest mouth horse I’ve ever ridden. He’s very good at his job and his happy to do so! I’m exploring any and all options before heading back to new bolton for consult on the next possible steps as I’m not one to jump and throw drugs or procedures at them if there is a better option that might work. If he needs to go, he will most certainly go when that time comes. So any information, reviews or other “similar” biting recommendations would be greatly appreciated!!
I would try the wide barrel myler or Pessoa magic snaffle.
Those bits won’t help achieve what I’m looking for and can almost guarantee they would be too much for him. He literally requires no bit, but we need one since we’re hunters 
I’m more specifically looking for something along the lines of the bits I listed. Thanks though!
If he likes the mullen mouth and something very mild, you might find yourself surprised…but to each their own.
Thanks! I will keep that in mind, but again…I’m looking for feedback on the bits I mentioned for a specific purpose or ones that are closely similar. It’s for the support of the soft palete due to a “defect” my horse has that causes the noise. Just because a bit looks “barbaric” doesn’t mean it is…thinking outside the box on this one for what could be a non-surgical lifesaver for my horse. Feel free to look up the WTP bit and it will provide more information and how it properly fits the anatomical structure of the mouth. It also touches on the “mildness” of it as well!
i Have used the Winning Tongue Plate Bit, just don’t know if it will help with what you need. It is great for keeping the tongue in the mouth and the horses seem to be comfortable with it , Bernie Traurig has used them you might contact him and ask if it will help with what you need .
I have used a WTP for a horse who liked to get the tongue over the bit. And a friend used it for her horse who liked to flip his soft pallet.
Thank you! I will reach out to Bernie! I just rode with him in February at Denny Emerson’s and we had a light discussion about my horse. I am also riding with him in September. However, I just showed my horse at Upperville and he made zero noise! I have a WTP coming and should be here tomorrow…looking forward to experimenting!
I use a winning tongue plate bit with the tongue plate on my horse that likes to get his tongue over the bit. I went with it because he really didn’t like other styles of tongue bitss, but this one he tolerates well, it keeps his tongue in place, and he rides well in it.
I’m not crazy about the Winning Tongue Plate bits. It does the job–keeps tongue under bit and also keeps the horse from displacing–but the horses I have tried it on have not liked it. Nothing terrible, just a little bit offended by it or sensitive about it, like it was annoying to them. Instead of being softer and rounder, a little more high headed and resistant.
For horses that displace, I usually go to a happy mouth bit with a mullen mouth. Or, alternatively my favorite (but more expensive and more easily chewed through) is the Nathe bit, such as the flexible loose ring or D ring.
