Bloodline question from someone who knows nothing about breeding

[SweetMutt]

I remember someone explaining this to me a while back, but I can’t for the life of me remember…

What does it mean when a horse is listed as having 3 parents? E.g. HorseName (sire x dam x another stallion). I just came across this on a breeder’s website and can’t remember how this happens.

[Beentheredonethat]

They usually have the sire, dam and the dam’s sire.

[SweetMutt]

Mystery solved. Thanks!

[Tiki]

or the sire, the damsire and the granddamsire - which is more usual with European Warmbloods

[Iron_Horse_Farm]

@Tiki;5714313

or the sire, the damsire and the granddamsire - which is more usual with European Warmbloods

THis one is correct!

[rodawn]

These are both right, but it depends on how it is written.

[QUOTE=Beentheredonethat;5712977]
They usually have the sire, dam and the dam’s sire.[/QUOTE]

When it is written as: sire x dam / damsire.
Or: sire - dam / damsire.
Both of these are more common in North America. An example of the second version is found on the American Hanoverian website in the activated stallions list.

@Tiki;5714313

or the sire, the damsire and the granddamsire - which is more usual with European Warmbloods

When it is written
sire - damsire - granddamsire.
This one tends to be used world-wide.

[Home_Again_Farm]

@rodawn;5714340

These are both right, but it depends on how it is written.

When it is written as: sire x dam / damsire.
Or: sire - dam / damsire.
Both of these are more common in North America. An example of the second version is found on the American Hanoverian website in the activated stallions list.

When it is written
sire - damsire - granddamsire.
This one tends to be used world-wide.

Agree with the 1st example. :yes:

Edited to say that I would expect to see forward slants rather than dashes ( / not - )on the 2nd example as ahf writes below.

[ahf]

It was my understanding that a hyphen means sire then dam:
World Cup I - Anka

Slashes mean sires:
World Cup I/Absatz/Adorno

But perhaps I’m wrong? Are hyphens used in Europe when listing sire, 1st damsire, 2nd damsire?

[rodawn]

Hyphens are being used when expressing sire, damsire and granddamsire. Here is an example at Celle:

http://landgestuetcelle.de/cms/front_content.php?idcat=16&changelang=2

Flyinge State Stud in Sweden types theirs as: Sire - damsire
http://www.flyinge.se/Avelochreproduktion/Hingstar/Översiktallahingstar.aspx

Slashes are too easy to mistake for an I or L so more often hyphens are used instead. I, as well, express all the stallions on my web page the same way that Celle does.

[Home_Again_Farm]

Evidence that slashes are also used in Germany can be found on these pages on the Hanoverian Verband site:

http://www.hannoveraner.com/3143.html

http://www.hannoveraner.com/97.html

Here in the states, AHS definitely uses the method that ahf cites above. I have typed up enough inspection programs with breeding listed that way that were sent from the AHS office to be sure. :winkgrin::yes:

[rodawn]

LOL, Home Again… so very true.

So, there you have it, OP… there’s a lot of variety. And it’s all as clear as MUD!

HAHAHA!